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Old 06-24-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default true radar jammer, which one?

today a radar camera from a police car photo'd my camaro while i was doing around 80 mph i felt truely angry because i know that ticket will be around $135 if not more and this is not cheap .

i want a true radar jammer that can truely jam the high way radar cameras, i heard that scorpion ( for $499) can jam X and K bands but some times it doesn't work is that true?

i also found some info on the new scorpion ultimate Ka that can jam X, K and Ka bands but it is very expensive $1500.

i need your opinions on these jammers and other laser jammers like the escort ZR3 does it jam the X, K and Ka bands or just the laser guns? specially from who tried thses jammers.

i think here in Kuwait on the high way they are using radar cameras that work on the K band but i'm not sure if they upgraded to the new Ka band as the Ka band was not used here in Kuwait before.

also i read that there will be a new Ku band that will be introduced in the late of 2005 for uerope.

thanks for help.
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I thought those things only worked for laser... maybe not though, In most states in the united states using one of those is considered like obstruction of justice or some crap like that. Make sure they are legal where you live...
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Jammers ... I have installed em and lets start with the facts

Not Legal anywhere
Current Police units have anti-jamming and jamming notifcation.
The units simply have a signature and read only their returns

The old days .. like 1988 or so we could make seperate x or k jammers and installed em front and rear. Radar spelled backwards .....
There a few funny things that happens when you have a jammer
Trucks and Cars slam on their brakes as you come up on them if you are transmitting. The answer was to go to a passive jamming using a detector to trigger the jammer.
They acually worked as we tested a black NSX here in Houston with a West U police unit. Every now and then right at 90 degree angles the unit would read the nsx.
But that was the old .... days
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hes in Kuwait, so the US laws don't apply. i haven't heard of any of them truely working. a decent radar detector might be a better and cheaper bet than a really expensive jammer
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Originally Posted by Phoenix57
hes in Kuwait, so the US laws don't apply. i haven't heard of any of them truely working. a decent radar detector might be a better and cheaper bet than a really expensive jammer
Somehow, I don't think he was clocked going 80mph by photo radar in Kuwait.

I don't know about the "good old days" but there are no radar jammers on the consumer market these days that actually work. Active jammers (transmitters) come under the jurisdiction of the FCC (in the U.S.) and are illegal to own or sell anywhere in the country.

Laser jammers are a different story. Since they use light rather than microwave they aren't covered by FCC regulations. Several states have made them illegal but they are OK in most of the country.
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Ive never seen or heard of a radar jammer that actually works.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Ive never seen or heard of a radar jammer that actually works.
Me either, wouldnt waste your money
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get a licsense plate mirror imaging device. my friends have them on their cars.
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mirror imaging device? Can you please give some more info like a web site.....thanks
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http://www.radarbusters.com/products...ar/default.asp
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I have the escort passport 8500 and love it thats what I know have no idea about how well jammers work.

As for the licence plate cover I had one about 6 monthsago till I got pulled over it because she said she couldnt read my licence plate? Think she was on crack though
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Ive never seen or heard of a radar jammer that actually works.
I think the ones in the B-2 and F-117A stealth aircraft are fairly effective but they might be a little too expensive.
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Yo White00 I DO Know about the old days ..I was driving and building 12 volt electronics in 1988 this was the best one .... we started doing these in like 95 or so. We also hade one called a dial it that allowed the user to dial in the speed the unit would send out.

The first truly effective active jammer was the VRCD, a large, heavy metal box stuffed with circuit boards, two large metal waveguides, and a pair of varactor-tuned Gunn oscillators that produce a powerful, modulated signal. All this was controlled by a microprocessor programmed with complex algorithms.

It acually worked ... But no longer.

Just check out http://www.mphindustries.com/
or any of the many radar gun manufactures ..... Use a detector and be smart, I like all the better detectors Bel, Escort, Valentine.
As far as laser detection the plate thang well officers are trained to point at the headlight, And the light on your lidar detector should light up with pull over.
Has anyone on this forum had a good laser dectection... not where you see the police unit.. but well before?
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Actually, I have received a laser warning without being the target once. I was on the interstate in town when my Passport SR7 starting making sounds I'd never heard before. Moments later it made the same sound only louder and faster. Then I saw the highway patrol cars on the shoulder. I realized that the car in front of me had been tagged with laser followed by them targeting me. The warning might have been enough to scrub off a few miles per hour if I had gotten on the brakes immediately but if I had been really speeding I would have been toast. As it was they just ignored my 5 over and waited for someone else to come by.

Do you think Firebirds are harder to clock with laser since the headlights are hidden and, at least in Florida, there is nothing but plastic on the front end (no front tag)?
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Turn signal indicators and fog lights will do a pretty good Job the ambush range is reduced quite a bit on your bird say like 500-800 feet which again happens to be the range the other team is trained for as to get positive ID ...
Yup Firebirds are more stealthy then our Camaros for Lidar
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Whitebird00, first of all the stealth aircrafts do no come up on radar due to their unique shape not due to anything else. They are virtually invisible, but still do show up on radar, it just doesn't provide the typical signature of an aircraft.
Secondly radar works on the doppler principle. Basically a wave gets bounced off of the target object(your car) from the radar gun. It then measures when the signal bounces back and gives a mph reading based on a calculation. Metal,plastic or whatever doesn't matter.
IMHO radar detectors only work with inexperienced or lazy because they keep it constant on. If they conceal themselves and only transmit when they see you coming you are toast.
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Originally Posted by 30thanniv
Whitebird00, first of all the stealth aircrafts do no come up on radar due to their unique shape not due to anything else. They are virtually invisible, but still do show up on radar, it just doesn't provide the typical signature of an aircraft.
Secondly radar works on the doppler principle. Basically a wave gets bounced off of the target object(your car) from the radar gun. It then measures when the signal bounces back and gives a mph reading based on a calculation. Metal,plastic or whatever doesn't matter.
IMHO radar detectors only work with inexperienced or lazy because they keep it constant on. If they conceal themselves and only transmit when they see you coming you are toast.


Couldnt have said it better myself but I think the idea is that they wil clock the person infront of you and your radar will pick it up, allowing you time to slow down.
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Originally Posted by 30thanniv
Whitebird00, first of all the stealth aircrafts do no come up on radar due to their unique shape not due to anything else. They are virtually invisible, but still do show up on radar, it just doesn't provide the typical signature of an aircraft.
Secondly radar works on the doppler principle. Basically a wave gets bounced off of the target object(your car) from the radar gun. It then measures when the signal bounces back and gives a mph reading based on a calculation. Metal,plastic or whatever doesn't matter.
IMHO radar detectors only work with inexperienced or lazy because they keep it constant on. If they conceal themselves and only transmit when they see you coming you are toast.
My post was made tongue-in-cheek as a way of pointing out that effective radar jamming is possible but not within the realm of the consumer market (aside from being illegal). And yes, the stealth aircraft avoid radar because of their shape as well as the special coating that is put on the skin of the plane. So, I probably should have used the Air Force EF-111A Raven and the Navy EA-6B Prowler as examples instead.

Jamming speed radar is technically less challenging than military applications because of the fixed wavelengths that are used but the equipment required is still somewhat bulky (not your typical windshield mount) and tends to cause interference with other systems.

Besides, a trained officer can recognize when an error reading from the radar gun is caused by jamming so he can just arrest you rather than give you a speeding ticket.

BTW, measuring the Doppler effect requires getting a reflection from the object being clocked. Plastic doesn't reflect microwave energy (radar) which is why you can mount a remote radar receiver behind the plastic front end without much loss of sensitivity.
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good info dude. You had me worried there for a minute, had me me thinking you were serious..lol
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Originally Posted by joe 207
mirror imaging device? Can you please give some more info like a web site.....thanks
I've seen on Ebay theres a spray that comes in a aerosol can that creates a huge reflection when anyone tries to get your plate making it hard to judge what it says. It was pretty inexpensive but might be illegal... espiecially if you get pulled over and the cops headlights are creating such a glair on your plate he cant read it.... he might know somethings up.


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