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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM   #1
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I have a CDA-9886 in my car and I'm getting pretty excited about the IMPRINT setup...as far as I know, I need a PXA-H100 and a KTX-100EQ. Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Ian, I know you're selling Alpine decks now...can you let me know if you have any pricing on those 2 part numbers? Crutchfield has good pricing on them, but I've been giving you my car audio business since I bought this car and you've treated me well so I figured now that I see you're carrying Apline, it can't hurt to ask.

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I Mike, let me see what I can do for you. I am supposed to be getting a phone call from my Alpine guy today anyway so I can check on that for you regarding pricing and availability. I will try to beat Crutchfield for you!!
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crutchfield will rent it to you for the price of the restocking fee. I think its 50, but might be less since this is a 9886, and thats the price they quoted me for the 9887
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What is this IMPRINT stuff you speak of? I just got the 9885 and am curious if I have what you're talking about.
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crutchfield will rent it to you for the price of the restocking fee. I think its 50, but might be less since this is a 9886, and thats the price they quoted me for the 9887
Not the same...i need to buy the first part number for the 9886 because it's a permanent install...external audio processor...then the other PN is the same one your 9887 would use, it's the reference mic...but I see no point in renting it. Nothing is ever "done", just like no engine is ever "tuned" for everything possible...I'm happy to spend the money to own my own and then use it whenever I want to.

Brian, IMPRINT basically is a reference mic that you put in the car in the different seating locations, and it EQ's a TON of points along the range of frequency's that the human ear can hear to try to make the audio as "correct" as possible in a car...it also does time correction on the speakers based on those listening locations and the individual speaker locations.
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Not the same...i need to buy the first part number for the 9886 because it's a permanent install...external audio processor...then the other PN is the same one your 9887 would use, it's the reference mic...but I see no point in renting it. Nothing is ever "done", just like no engine is ever "tuned" for everything possible...I'm happy to spend the money to own my own and then use it whenever I want to.

Brian, IMPRINT basically is a reference mic that you put in the car in the different seating locations, and it EQ's a TON of points along the range of frequency's that the human ear can hear to try to make the audio as "correct" as possible in a car...it also does time correction on the speakers based on those listening locations and the individual speaker locations.

actually the kits for the 9887 and 9886 are different as far as I could tell

9887 kit
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...7&i=500KTX100E
9886 kits
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...skipvs=T&g=140


not sure if the 9886 kits works with other unit or not?
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I think you might be right...looks like it's the KTX-H100 not the KTX-100EQ...and since it's WAY cheaper at Crutchfield (though out of stock but it might be that they just haven't been shipped from Alpine yet)...seems very worth buying over renting.
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I think you might be right...looks like it's the KTX-H100 not the KTX-100EQ...and since it's WAY cheaper at Crutchfield (though out of stock but it might be that they just haven't been shipped from Alpine yet)...seems very worth buying over renting.

I believe you also need the Alpine PXA-H100 along with the KTX-H100 for the 9886. I am trying to decide but I may do the same thing as you, but I am just not sure what the differences are between the 9887 and 9886 once imprinted?

listed under the Alpine PXA-H100
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requires Alpine KTX-H100 tuning kit for full functionality (not included, available soon)
and it does look like the Alpine PXA-H100 and the KTX-H100 are made for all the new stereos. Where as the KTX-100EQ, is made for only the 9887.

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audio processor for use with most 2008 Alpine Ai-NET receivers
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Use the KTX-100EQ sound tuning kit to tailor the audio settings in your Alpine CDA-9887 CD receiver to best match your vehicle's interior.
Also after doing some reading, I believe the KTX-100EQ, is the same processor used in the infamous CDA 7990
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What is this IMPRINT stuff you speak of? I just got the 9885 and am curious if I have what you're talking about.
only 9887 and 2008 models can have the imprint done
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You're absolutely correct I still need a PXA-H100 in addition to the KTX-H100...but be careful there...the KTX-H100 is the mic and software that isn't permanently installed...it goes in for tuning, then sits in your house on a shelf when you're not tuning. The PXA-H100 is the standalone processor that is required for the 9886 and other such decks to take advantage of the KTX-H100...it renders the CDA-9886 as pretty much a processor controller and I/O board (I personally went with the 9886 for it's USB connection in addition to the ability to work with IMPRINT).

The KTX-100EQ is NOT a processor. It goes in for tuning as well (with the 9887) and comes out when not tuning...the difference is the 9887 has the processing power already built into the deck, the 9886 needs the standalone. Also I believe the 9887 has a burr brown DAC that the 9886 does not.

I've done a bit more digging on this, and with a 9886 and a PXA-H100, you can use EITHER the KTX-H100 or the KTX-100EQ for tuning...I think Alpine did that as a lot of shops already invested in their own KTX-100EQ's for in house tuning work so it's backwards compatible...I don't know what if any differences in tuning capability there will be...not sure I'll ever need to know either...I am just happy the KTX-H100 is CHEAP to buy.

Also, you CAN run a PXA-H100 with a 9886 without a KTX-H100, and it gives you more EQ control than you had before...but for the price to go all out and get both, it's definitely worth it to me.

What I think is cool is Alpine is releasing similar hardware that'll work with factory stereo's too. Stock monsoon deck didn't have the input features that I wanted...but when you want a stock looking interior...you can't beat a factory head unit.
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You're absolutely correct I still need a PXA-H100 in addition to the KTX-H100...but be careful there...the KTX-H100 is the mic and software that isn't permanently installed...it goes in for tuning, then sits in your house on a shelf when you're not tuning. The PXA-H100 is the standalone processor that is required for the 9886 and other such decks to take advantage of the KTX-H100...it renders the CDA-9886 as pretty much a processor controller and I/O board (I personally went with the 9886 for it's USB connection in addition to the ability to work with IMPRINT).

The KTX-100EQ is NOT a processor. It goes in for tuning as well (with the 9887) and comes out when not tuning...the difference is the 9887 has the processing power already built into the deck, the 9886 needs the standalone. Also I believe the 9887 has a burr brown DAC that the 9886 does not.

I've done a bit more digging on this, and with a 9886 and a PXA-H100, you can use EITHER the KTX-H100 or the KTX-100EQ for tuning...I think Alpine did that as a lot of shops already invested in their own KTX-100EQ's for in house tuning work so it's backwards compatible...I don't know what if any differences in tuning capability there will be...not sure I'll ever need to know either...I am just happy the KTX-H100 is CHEAP to buy.

Also, you CAN run a PXA-H100 with a 9886 without a KTX-H100, and it gives you more EQ control than you had before...but for the price to go all out and get both, it's definitely worth it to me.

What I think is cool is Alpine is releasing similar hardware that'll work with factory stereo's too. Stock monsoon deck didn't have the input features that I wanted...but when you want a stock looking interior...you can't beat a factory head unit.
if you can use the KTX-H100 or KTX-100EQ for tuning the 9886 with PXA-H100, then I wonder if you can use the KTX-H100 with the 9887?

that would be an awesome solution if possible

they appear to be the same thing just 30 dollars versus 250

I mean hell, look at the picture from crutchfields website
it says KTX-100EQ on the module, and its the kit KTX-H100
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here's the link
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...XA-H100&tp=116

The CD says the same thing, KTX-100EQ

if this is true, I have made my decision, Alpine 9887 and KTX-H100, 430 shipped

Nevermind, alpine's website clears this up
http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=KTX-H100
includes
* • CD-ROM
* • USB Cable
* • Microphone for measurement

ok I might have to take that back crutchfield says

Alpine KTX-H100 includes

* tuning kit works in concert with Alpine's PXA-H100 IMPRINT Audio Processor
* includes a calibration CD-ROM, microphone and cables, and a junction box for connections
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