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Old 08-24-2009, 07:25 PM
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Comin home from harrisburg the afternoon after an amazing bachelor party and end up behind this silver viper rt/10. Played for a little while traffic was medium and then finally got the chance to open up. He lead us into a long curve on the TP at around 70mph. I kept pace behind him until the the road straightened out then we both hit it. He grabbed a car/car.5 and then at the top of my 3rd I started to pull????? Closed the gap and got him to about half a car by 130. I could tell by the loud *** exhaust he didn't let off though. So my guess is he definitely started at too high of an rpm and had to shift quick; and he either missed 4th and went to 6th or purposely went from 3rd to 5th, or 2nd to 5th, 2nd to 4th. Not claiming a kill here, just want some insight.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:34 PM
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sup jay...I was looking at some 1/4 times for 1st gen vipers...is it really possible I pulled him?
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nice man,dont miss with the viper its posion

its good that g8 with about 1/2 car behind him
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just to make sure... you pulled a viper? a v10 deep 12 sec car with a high trap speed?

What car were you driving?
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Might want to check your numbers venom. And re-read the op. I was in my g8. 15+ year old 405 hp viper is no where near the "deep 12s" and I said there was probably a shifting issue because of how quick the pull reversed. I ended up a half car ahead friend from the middle east.
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Originally Posted by TheTugBoat
Might want to check your numbers venom. And re-read the op. I was in my g8. 15+ year old 405 hp viper is no where near the "deep 12s" and I said there was probably a shifting issue because of how quick the pull reversed. I ended up a half car ahead friend from the middle east.
Lets just look at physics here. lets say you make as much hp/tq as a 1st gen viper does. you still weigh about 600lbs more. a 1st gen viper will go deep into the 12's stock. let alone run mid 12's all day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Viper

read for yourself if you want. i'm not gonna go chasing down facts for you.

do these people know you are racing them? and who was from the middle east?
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Take a deep breath. First, stop getting 1/4 times from ******' wiki, that page encompasses 93-98 vipers. Which is basically like 13.0s to 12.1s during those model years, I was referring to 93-95 range. Second, realize that from the very beginning I never said "I beat a viper". I merely wanted some insight and all you're doing is doubting the race even happened and telling me I would never keep up with a viper. Trust me I have way more important things to do than come on here and brag about races that didn't happen. I would never give someone a fly-by and then come on here and claim it was a race. Me and this viper were playing for like 40 miles before it opened up enough to really go at it. He was racing. I remember when this section was full of people that knew a lot about cars, and not just idiot know-it-all's that know nothing.



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Originally Posted by TheTugBoat
Take a deep breath. First, stop getting 1/4 times from ******' wiki, that page encompasses 93-98 vipers. Which is basically like 13.0s to 12.1s during those model years, I was referring to 93-95 range. Second, realize that from the very beginning I never said "I beat a viper". I merely wanted some insight and all you're doing is doubting the race even happened and telling me I would never keep up with a viper. Trust me I have way more important things to do than come on here and brag about races that didn't happen. I would never give someone a fly-by and then come on here and claim it was a race. Me and this viper were playing for like 40 miles before it opened up enough to really go at it. He was racing. I remember when this section was full of people that knew a lot about cars, and not just idiot know-it-all's that know nothing.



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yea....

so once again just so i understand what you are telling me. a 450hp 3200-3300lb viper and you in a 360hp 3800-4000lb g8 had a race... and you are stating that you hung with him and began to pull at the top of 3rd gear.....and wonder if this was a legit race?

because i must not be smoking the same good stuff you are if you dont see a tiny flaw in any of that.


so if i posted that i ran a 400hp c5 z06 with my 400hp cts-v and i posted that i began to pull on him.... it would be just as absurd.
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The first-generation model (1992-1995) produced 400 hp. That's to the crank. ~350 to the wheels. I'm at 330rwhp, better gearing, and not 15 years old. Stop, just stop.
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Originally Posted by TheTugBoat
sup jay...I was looking at some 1/4 times for 1st gen vipers...is it really possible I pulled him?
Dude, it's not impossible to believe. As you said before, with 350rwhp and marginal driver, hell it would be close IMHO. I am trying to talk my wife into a G8 so I can mod the hell out of it.
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Definitely go for it if you can. You can get a sick deal on one if you really look. And modding them is so rewarding because of the gains of just minor bolt-ons. Can't complain with runnin 12s in a G8 with just like 600$ for an intake and tune. Get real crazy and buy a v6 and do an LS7 swap for almost the price of a new G8GT
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
yea....

so once again just so i understand what you are telling me. a 450hp 3200-3300lb viper and you in a 360hp 3800-4000lb g8 had a race... and you are stating that you hung with him and began to pull at the top of 3rd gear.....and wonder if this was a legit race?

because i must not be smoking the same good stuff you are if you dont see a tiny flaw in any of that.


so if i posted that i ran a 400hp c5 z06 with my 400hp cts-v and i posted that i began to pull on him.... it would be just as absurd.

Ok dude. Your not acting very cool! Atleast look up info before you start calling BS on people. If you dont have ANY idea what your talking about then look it up! And no!! The first Gen Vipers had ALOT of show and no-go compaired to todays cars...

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Dodge-0-60-mph-Times.html

-if you have enough energy to follow the link in your already busy day.

http://car-times.com/DoShowCarDetail.php

- just in case you deside to call BS on my website. I have added an extra one

Dodge Viper 0 to 60 mph and Quarter Mile Times

1992 Dodge Viper RT/10 0-60 mph 4.6 Quarter mile 12.9

1993 Dodge Viper RT/10 0-60 mph 4.4 Quarter mile 13.0

1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter mile 12.7

1997 Dodge Viper GTS 0-60 mph 3.9 Quarter mile 12.2

1997 Dodge Viper RT/10 0-60 mph 4.6 Quarter mile 12.8

1998 Dodge Viper GT2 0-60 mph 4.1 Quarter mile 12.3

1998 Dodge Viper GTS 0-60 mph 4.2 Quarter mile 12.3

1998 Dodge Viper RT/10 0-60 mph 4.0 Quarter mile 12.1

1999 Dodge Viper GT2 0-60 mph 3.9 Quarter mile 11.9

1999 Dodge Viper GTS 0-60 mph 4.0 Quarter mile 12.0

2000 Dodge Viper ACR 0-60 mph 4.1 Quarter mile 12.5

2001 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 0-60 mph 4.2 Quarter mile 12.4

2002 Viper Hennessey Venom 1000TT 0-60 mph 2.2 Quarter mile 9.4

2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Convertible 0-60 mph 4.0 Quarter mile 12.1

2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 0-60 mph 3.7 Quarter mile 11.6

2006 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe 0-60 mph 3.7 Quarter mile 11.9

2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 0-60 mph 3.6 Quarter mile 11.6

2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 0-60 mph 3.3 Quarter mile 11.7

2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 0-60 mph 3.6 Quarter mile 11.6

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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
yea....

so once again just so i understand what you are telling me. a 450hp 3200-3300lb viper and you in a 360hp 3800-4000lb g8 had a race... and you are stating that you hung with him and began to pull at the top of 3rd gear.....and wonder if this was a legit race?

because i must not be smoking the same good stuff you are if you dont see a tiny flaw in any of that.


so if i posted that i ran a 400hp c5 z06 with my 400hp cts-v and i posted that i began to pull on him.... it would be just as absurd.
Quit being a douche bag. He posted a race asking for info, not for some almighty race snob to give him a bunch of ****.
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Nick sup man long time no talk. Workin a bunch but still gotta get up sometime. Hit me up if you're ever around Philly.
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Interesting race. Anyone have trap speeds for that year RT/10 stock? Based on those ETs posted, some terrible shifting on one of the slower years and it doesn't sound too far out of reach. Weird.

Regardless, good kill!
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Good run. Whatever happened, he's either pissed at his driving or confused right now, lol.

From what I found (not much to find without going on Viper specific forums I guess) they trapped in the 110-111 range in those years.
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Originally Posted by TheTugBoat
Nick sup man long time no talk. Workin a bunch but still gotta get up sometime. Hit me up if you're ever around Philly.
I'm always around Philly. I'm back in school in a month, so I'll be around Philly every day by then.

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One thing for certain.. Who ever you raced is telling their friends YOU had nitrous or a supercharger. We all know anything happens on the street. But Just cause its 15 years old doesn't mean much. Most vipers have real low miles on them. When I was looking for one( any year) most had really really low miles.
I can believe hanging with one below 80 mph, but anything over that he shoulda pulled away.



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