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Old 11-21-2010, 08:23 PM   #1
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I know this has probably been beat to death but here it is. A guy I went to school with just bought a 2011 GT 6 speed 3.73s. Hes been wanting to run my T/A. He thinks it only has exhaust on it but how would my T/A, mods are in sig, stand up to it if drivers were equal. I'm betting I'll prolly have to run to find out but i thought i would ask. We'll probably be going from say a 30 mph roll to roughly 100. Thanks
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I beat one a few weeks ago... With the mods in my sig (minus clutch and flywheel). You should be able to edge him out.... But anything can happen on the streets.
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From what I've read it looks like full bolt on 4th gen f-bods are about equal with the new 5.0's. Which makes sense, both about the same HP and weight at that point, just a driver's race.
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Watch the launch... But, it should be easy due to your cam, tune, and 4.10's
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Watch the launch... But, it should be easy due to your cam, tune, and 4.10's
Did realize he had a cam.. OP, you should beat him fairly easily then.
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I think you'll take it. Mustang owners won't think that u will.
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If a cammed/4.10 geared LS1 cant outrun a stock 5.0 Mustang I would drive the F-body off a cliff.
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With you having the 4:10 final drive, no question in my mind you'll beat him. Add the cam, no question whatsoever.
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If a cammed/4.10 geared LS1 cant outrun a stock 5.0 Mustang I would drive the F-body off a cliff.
I agree! If its an "equal drivers" race, and you lose, then I would suggest you immediately go to the shop and find out what in the hell is wrong with your car

Should be an easy kill ESPECIALLY if you run em up to high 4th for you...
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You should pull pretty good on him if he is stock with your mods. Post back with your results.
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Probably going to happen this weekend sometime. A couple buddies of mine are actually setting it up. He told them the last time he talked to me it only had exhasut on it so thats what he believes. If he goes through with it I'll post what happens.
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I pretty much agree with everything that has been said. 4.10's and cam should be enough to kill it.
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More HP, 400lbs less. Is it even a question?
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If a cammed/4.10 geared LS1 cant outrun a stock 5.0 Mustang I would drive the F-body off a cliff.
Agreed 100%. If you had just flowpack/LT's/tune and 3.23 gears you would still take him from a roll if he is stock. With your current mods you would take him even if he had a tune, CAI, LT's, and exhaust as long as you didnt spin.

Whats up with lying to him about your mods though? Man up and let him know about the cam- it's only gonna make you look like a tool to show up with a loping cam when all he thinks you have is exhaust work done. That's the kind of thing I used to hate about the juvenile Mustang and import crowd: "It's stock except for the exhaust".
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Wow, it's nice to know that 9-13 year old F-bodies can take down a 2011 GT with just a couple bolt-ons and tune.
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Cam, gear, full exhaust, and a tune is a pretty healthy amount of bolt-ons. Should be no reason to lose to a stock car but I guess I see where you are coming from mystic
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You should have no problem taking him if he is stock. Get it on video though for sure!

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Cam, gear, full exhaust, and a tune is a pretty healthy amount of bolt-ons. Should be no reason to lose to a stock car but I guess I see where you are coming from mystic
Haha yea those were my thoughts too, getting into the motor internally is a little bit more than just "bolt-ons"
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Cam, gear, full exhaust, and a tune is a pretty healthy amount of bolt-ons. Should be no reason to lose to a stock car but I guess I see where you are coming from mystic
I wasn't talking about a cammed car. A cam is NOT a bolt-on IMO. Sticks N Stones said that a LT's/tune/gear'd/flowpack car should be able to take one from a roll.
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I haven't talked to him to tell him its cammed. I would have told him when i talked to him but more than likely he won't care anyway. I talked to him when he first got that car and the Trans am was never mentioned we were talking about my cobalt and i asked him how much hp they were rated and he said it was rated like 412 but he read in a magazine they were underrated and made like 460 to the wheels or something unreal sounding.
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I wasn't talking about a cammed car. A cam is NOT a bolt-on IMO. Sticks N Stones said that a LT's/tune/gear'd/flowpack car should be able to take one from a roll.
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I... i asked him how much hp they were rated and he said it was rated like 412 but he read in a magazine they were underrated and made like 460 to the wheels or something unreal sounding.
wow he's delusional then. Only a noob would even consider that realistic. Granted they appear to be slightly underrated, maybe 10-15hp max. I believe the average for a stock 5.0 is around 370rwhp, the same ballpark as a LS3 SS and SRT8.
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