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Old 05-01-2012, 07:24 PM
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03 Z06: 233/239 cam & 100 shot

06 GSXR 600: slip on, sprocket, tune

Eclipse: 61, E85, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c6Z...layer_embedded
Old 05-01-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdTransAm
03 Z06: 233/239 cam & 100 shot

06 GSXR 600: slip on, sprocket, tune

Eclipse: 61, E85, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c6Z...layer_embedded
Sick races, that eclipse must be making some good power?
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Good races!
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Rider needs a little more practice at roll racing.

Judging by how clearly you can hear the honks/yells, these were approx 40 rolls. Bike was late on the hit for 2 of the 3 races, started in 2nd gear, didn't seem to tuck fully, didn't powershift, and ran into the limiter.

Consider setting and turning the shift light on also. It's pointless during the day because it's tough to see, but helpful at night. Half the time i forget it because you have to turn it on every time you start the bike, at least on my GSXR you do.

You can definitely pull the Z06, and probably give the eclipse a hard time too with a little more practice.
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dont let out of that throttle on that bike!!!!! your losing crazy ground by moving ur wrist so far
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i was actually expecting a lot more from the Z. With a cam, full exhaust, and a 100 shot (i assume full exhaust because of that cam), you should be crossing the 130mph trap boundary no problem. I would expect the Z to pull an ace on that r6... nevermind a newer rider. But good races none the less.
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Cool vid.

OP, is that you on the bike?
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No, not my bike and he is an experienced rider but i don't know much about riding. The runs are at 50mph not 40mph btw.

The eclipse is fast, pulled the Z by a couple cars from a 50mph roll.
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Originally Posted by FirebirdTransAm
No, not my bike and he is an experienced rider but i don't know much about riding. The runs are at 50mph not 40mph btw.

The eclipse is fast, pulled the Z by a couple cars from a 50mph roll.
have the z and eclipse tracked it up yet?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
have the z and eclipse tracked it up yet?
Eclispe no, he won't. The Z went 12.0@127 on a smaller shot 2.3 60' lol.
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Originally Posted by FirebirdTransAm
Eclispe no, he won't. The Z went 12.0@127 on a smaller shot 2.3 60' lol.
lol nice. Thats exactly my point though. O potential 130mph car should pull an r6 pretty hard on the roll. Even at first then start leaving up top. Weirdness i tell ya...
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Very nice race. That Z06 has a nice setup!! Well the eclipse is even stronger! I agree the rider was sleeping on the beep though.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
i was actually expecting a lot more from the Z. With a cam, full exhaust, and a 100 shot (i assume full exhaust because of that cam), you should be crossing the 130mph trap boundary no problem. I would expect the Z to pull an ace on that r6... nevermind a newer rider. But good races none the less.
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lol nice. Thats exactly my point though. O potential 130mph car should pull an r6 pretty hard on the roll. Even at first then start leaving up top. Weirdness i tell ya...
Not that it really matters but the bike in this thread is a GSXR 600. And a Vette that traps 127mph isn't going to pull "hard" on a well ridden '06 GSXR 600.
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where is all this takin place when i come to Disney World...lol.
good runs!
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nice videos...that 600 rider is better than all the riders up here in Wisconsin! lol I Haven't lost to a 600 in my slow turd! Actually, the riders are so bad here, my roommate in is 02 WS6 w/ lid and tune beat an 06 GSXR600 from a 40 roll! haha

Anyways, I'm with the others...the Z06 has a nice set up on it. What kinda of mph does a 600 run with those mods? Is it north of 130?
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Originally Posted by 38394Z28
What kinda of mph does a 600 run with those mods? Is it north of 130?
Probably not in general, but from a 1st gear roll it's a different game with those bikes.
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I am the owner of the Z06. It was just some fun runs. The first run I wasnt sure if he could hear me yelling the count down so I gave him the hit and had to shut it down due to a car coming up in my lane. Second run we left pretty much at the same time. There was a vehicle broke down on my side of the road so I had to let out just as I started pulling pretty good. Seems like my car wakes up in 4th. But it was all just for fun. I had never ran a bike before so I wanted to see how it would go. From what I have seen the 06+ 600's with filter, pipe, and -1 +2 usually trap in the 126-128 range.
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Originally Posted by Z06Ryan
I am the owner of the Z06. It was just some fun runs. The first run I wasnt sure if he could hear me yelling the count down so I gave him the hit and had to shut it down due to a car coming up in my lane. Second run we left pretty much at the same time. There was a vehicle broke down on my side of the road so I had to let out just as I started pulling pretty good. Seems like my car wakes up in 4th. But it was all just for fun. I had never ran a bike before so I wanted to see how it would go. From what I have seen the 06+ 600's with filter, pipe, and -1 +2 usually trap in the 126-128 range.
It's really not that simple though. The bike gains a lot less MPH on the back half than a car that traps the same, so you can't compare traps between bikes and cars like you can between cars. A well ridden stock 600 will pull a car that traps 130 pretty hard from a first gear roll. From 55+ where the bike is in second gear it's a very close race and the car will eventually pull up top. A stock 600 will trap 125-129 depending on the model, rider, DA, etc. From a 40 roll it doesn't look anything like the trap speeds indicate. From a 60 roll it'll be very close.

It takes a 135mph car to beat a 600 with a rider on it from 40mph, unless passing the bike at 140+ when it's out of steam counts as a win.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Not that it really matters but the bike in this thread is a GSXR 600. And a Vette that traps 127mph isn't going to pull "hard" on a well ridden '06 GSXR 600.
not sure where i got r6 from
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Originally Posted by Beans
It's really not that simple though. The bike gains a lot less MPH on the back half than a car that traps the same, so you can't compare traps between bikes and cars like you can between cars. A well ridden stock 600 will pull a car that traps 130 pretty hard from a first gear roll. From 55+ where the bike is in second gear it's a very close race and the car will eventually pull up top. A stock 600 will trap 125-129 depending on the model, rider, DA, etc. From a 40 roll it doesn't look anything like the trap speeds indicate. From a 60 roll it'll be very close.
Stock trapping 125-129, in perfect conditions I guess...??


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