Mach 1 vs LS3 Camaro
05-23-2012, 07:19 PM
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I thought I left that one off the random list so I added it later. The pic is of the hero run article that the Camaro guys like to try to use as the typical time for the stock LS.
05-23-2012, 07:28 PM
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05-23-2012, 07:53 PM
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I called you brand loyal because you made an statement without doing your research. Sorry if I offended you. Here's your article. 
FYI, my old Fully-optioned, Sebring Silver Leather/T-top 97 SS/6spd went consistent 13.7-8 @ 104.
FYI, my old Fully-optioned, Sebring Silver Leather/T-top 97 SS/6spd went consistent 13.7-8 @ 104.
05-23-2012, 07:59 PM
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Another thing that stuck out to me in that comparison above...most people claim the magazine guys can't drive, however the guys at C&D did much better at the drag strip than Scott Kalida, who is a professional racer. 
How ironic
How ironic
05-23-2012, 08:14 PM
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Sorry..... Stupid links..... You will probably have to cut and paste into bar but I checked that all the articles are still there
87 GT Vs. 87 IROC-Z
http://www.stangbangers.com/87_Musta...-Z_Article.htm
89 IROC-Z Vs. 89 Mustang LX Vs. 15 other cars
http://www.stangbangers.com/89_LX5-0_vs_Competition.htm
90 Camaro RS Vs. 90 Mustang LX
http://www.stangbangers.com/90_LX5-0...RS_Article.htm
93 Z28 Vs. 93 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/93_Cobra...28_Article.htm
93 Z28 Vs. 93 Vette Vs. 93 Formula Vs. 93 Viper Vs. 93 Cobra Vs. 93 Typhoon Vs. 93 Vette ZR1
http://www.stangbangers.com/93_Cobra...on_Article.htm
94 Formula Vert. Vs. 94 Cobra Vert.
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
94 Z28 Vs. 94 GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/GT_vs_Ca...8_Article1.htm
http://www.stangbangers.com/GT_vs_Ca...8_Article2.htm
96 Z28 Vs. 96 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/96_Cobra...28_Article.htm
96 SS Vs. 96 Formula WS6 Vs. 96 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/96_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 97 Cobra.
http://www.stangbangers.com/97_Cobra...28_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 98 Formula Vs. 98 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/98_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 98 Roush Stage III GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/98_Roush...SS_Article.htm
99 Z28 Vs. 99 GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/99GT_vs_...8_Article1.htm
99 SS Vs. 99 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/99Cobra_...SS_Article.htm
01 SS Vs. 01 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Cobra...SS_Article.htm
1994 Mustang GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_GT_Article1.htm
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_GT_Article2.htm Include concept drawings
1999 Mustang GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/99_GT_Article.htm
2001 Mustang Bullit
http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm
(This is also the article where Muscle Mustang&Fast Ford's ran a bonestock SS 12.9 in the 1/4)
87 GT Vs. 87 IROC-Z
http://www.stangbangers.com/87_Musta...-Z_Article.htm
89 IROC-Z Vs. 89 Mustang LX Vs. 15 other cars
http://www.stangbangers.com/89_LX5-0_vs_Competition.htm
90 Camaro RS Vs. 90 Mustang LX
http://www.stangbangers.com/90_LX5-0...RS_Article.htm
93 Z28 Vs. 93 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/93_Cobra...28_Article.htm
93 Z28 Vs. 93 Vette Vs. 93 Formula Vs. 93 Viper Vs. 93 Cobra Vs. 93 Typhoon Vs. 93 Vette ZR1
http://www.stangbangers.com/93_Cobra...on_Article.htm
94 Formula Vert. Vs. 94 Cobra Vert.
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
94 Z28 Vs. 94 GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/GT_vs_Ca...8_Article1.htm
http://www.stangbangers.com/GT_vs_Ca...8_Article2.htm
96 Z28 Vs. 96 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/96_Cobra...28_Article.htm
96 SS Vs. 96 Formula WS6 Vs. 96 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/96_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 97 Cobra.
http://www.stangbangers.com/97_Cobra...28_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 98 Formula Vs. 98 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/98_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
98 Z28 Vs. 98 Roush Stage III GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/98_Roush...SS_Article.htm
99 Z28 Vs. 99 GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/99GT_vs_...8_Article1.htm
99 SS Vs. 99 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/99Cobra_...SS_Article.htm
01 SS Vs. 01 Cobra
http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Cobra...SS_Article.htm
1994 Mustang GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_GT_Article1.htm
http://www.stangbangers.com/94_GT_Article2.htm Include concept drawings
1999 Mustang GT
http://www.stangbangers.com/99_GT_Article.htm
2001 Mustang Bullit
http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm
(This is also the article where Muscle Mustang&Fast Ford's ran a bonestock SS 12.9 in the 1/4)
05-23-2012, 08:46 PM
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The 96 SS was basically a Z28 with a good intake system and one of the best LT1 exhausts for its time, if you ordered yours with the optional SLP "2 on the left or 2OTL". And lastly a refined suspension and wider 275/40 17" tires.
05-23-2012, 09:05 PM
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05-23-2012, 09:27 PM
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I remember the first Lt1 I drove brand new. It felt like a rocket ship compared to a stock fox top end. I remember how pissed I was when the SN95 debuted and it was SLOWER than the car it replaced. We all thought and were told by the mags it would have a Gt40 5.0 motor in it standard. No dice. What a let down. 96 was another one.
96 Cobra was faster well driven. Thats the key. It was so undergeared and people didn't rev it high enough.
Not with good driving they were not. Top end the Cobra could pull it.
I went mid 13s in a Cobra. Many people like Mike Smith,Bob Cosby,David T,Mod father and other guys from the Corral back then went low 13s. Was not easy to do though.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
96 Cobra was faster well driven. Thats the key. It was so undergeared and people didn't rev it high enough.
Not with good driving they were not. Top end the Cobra could pull it.
I went mid 13s in a Cobra. Many people like Mike Smith,Bob Cosby,David T,Mod father and other guys from the Corral back then went low 13s. Was not easy to do though.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
05-23-2012, 10:07 PM
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Again, no way a modular SN95 Cobra was pulling an LT1 SS at any speed.
I don't recall anyone ever going bottom 13s in one. I was very much up on these cars since their introduction in 'late 1995 and I just simply don't recall anyone going that quick in a Box-stock 96-98 4v.
On the other hand, GMHTP went 13.3@106 in a stock 6spd/hardtop/cloth 96 SS with the mighty Evan Smith piloting the car. Car Craft went quicker than that with a stocker.
I don't recall anyone ever going bottom 13s in one. I was very much up on these cars since their introduction in 'late 1995 and I just simply don't recall anyone going that quick in a Box-stock 96-98 4v.
On the other hand, GMHTP went 13.3@106 in a stock 6spd/hardtop/cloth 96 SS with the mighty Evan Smith piloting the car. Car Craft went quicker than that with a stocker.
That red SS that was used in mag tests was a big ringer and was discussed to death back in the day on Z28.com/Corral. An LT1 SS will not trap 106 MPH stock by any means showroom stock
I owned both cars brand new and modded-a 96 Cobra will out pull any stock LT1 fbody top end. I can get a 96 Cobra in the mid 12 easy at full weight without going into the motor either. LT1s with a stock ten bolt at full weight were a bit harder to do that...
