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Old 05-17-2012, 01:12 PM
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But falls to the ZR1 like all others...lol. Can't wait til the new Viper hits
the tracks and runs with the other Beasts on the road!!

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2013 GTR 545hp..101k...got pics..it walks all.
Old 05-17-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 06vLo
i just drive to and from work and havnt got any real runs from anything other than the 5.7 bumblebee charger or whatever they are.
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think he means super bee??? thought those were 6.1 liter hemi's? of the SRT8 line... right?
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Super Bees are SRT8s you are correct.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
With my new setup I would walk you.
And I'm still on stock block... Just a shittier version of the LS3.

/fight

(i still love you secretly)
I don't think so...
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Can you find me a stock one to run? I'm in upper SC.
I'll run that mach. I'm in sumter. Close to columbia.
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where are all the VA racers at dammit
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Originally Posted by Nick V.
where are all the VA racers at dammit
Meet me in NC and I'll run you too.
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Originally Posted by Nick V.
where are all the VA racers at dammit
We all moved......
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
LOL..yet he needs a huge increase in cubes engine swap to get that boat moving...and not sure he would walk me. I'm always game if they are close enough.
Also he ran. 2 slower and trapped 4mph slower. Looks like he not walking nothing n/a. Maybe with his plate kit.
And my numbers was on a locked stall locked in 4th gear.
It would be a good race as he could/should be around 640-650rwhp if he locked his converter. I bet he's lighter than you though. Never thought I would be able to say that about a 5th gen versus 5.0 hahaha He is at something like 3750lbs w/ driver. I'll let him do the rest of the talking as I really don't want to be doing what I was just joking about: racing someone else's car like a teenage ricer!
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
^ watch out, another youtube racer!!!!!

Look at those coming soon mods!!!

Where is the coming soon rwhp and track time ratings?
Expected rwhp will be whatever the world record is with similar mods. Because we all know that every cammed LS1 runs low 10's.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
LOL..yet he needs a huge increase in cubes engine swap to get that boat moving...and not sure he would walk me. I'm always game if they are close enough.
Also he ran. 2 slower and trapped 4mph slower. Looks like he not walking nothing n/a. Maybe with his plate kit.
And my numbers was on a locked stall locked in 4th gear.
The cubic inch argument is so played out....... Ford guys have been using that line for years, all the while failing to mention they have been using blowers and an extra 3 cams for a decade.
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Originally Posted by FlatBlackZ28
The cubic inch argument is so played out....... Ford guys have been using that line for years, all the while failing to mention they have been using blowers and an extra 3 cams for a decade.
FI or 3 more cams vs 100+ more cubic inches. Its all equal. No GM guys complain till they lose that the ford guys had FI or more cams.

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It would be a good race as he could/should be around 640-650rwhp if he locked his converter. I bet he's lighter than you though. Never thought I would be able to say that about a 5th gen versus 5.0 hahaha He is at something like 3750lbs w/ driver. I'll let him do the rest of the talking as I really don't want to be doing what I was just joking about: racing someone else's car like a teenage ricer!
With new set up I am betting I am lighter. And then with the new parts on way. But I will be ordering a roll bar so should be about the same. I think I will still be about 100lbs lighter. Would most likely be a good run. Like said if can find a happy medium for a run I am always game.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
FI or 3 more cams vs 100+ more cubic inches. Its all equal. No GM guys complain till they lose that the ford guys had FI or more cams.
That's what I'm saying. You brought up the fact that he needed to go with big cubes to get where he got. GM guys don't bring that stuff up when they lose. They bring that stuff up when someone tries to make the "you use more cubes" or "I made more power on less cubes" argument. Chevy small blocks use a simple method to make power. Minimal valves, 1 cam and some decent cubes. HP/L, which is usually the basis of the ford cubic inch argument, means nothing and gets you nowhere, especially when FI comes into play. (Unless you are in a CI restricted racing class).
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Originally Posted by FlatBlackZ28
That's what I'm saying. You brought up the fact that he needed to go with big cubes to get where he got. GM guys don't bring that stuff up when they lose. They bring that stuff up when someone tries to make the "you use more cubes" or "I made more power on less cubes" argument. Chevy small blocks use a simple method to make power. Minimal valves, 1 cam and some decent cubes. HP/L, which is usually the basis of the ford cubic inch argument, means nothing and gets you nowhere, especially when FI comes into play. (Unless you are in a CI restricted racing class).
My point is he isn't getting it done on a stock engine like I am. Wow a SC on 10lbs boost, stock headers, stock suspension, stock tranny. And I still weigh more right now. Compared to a engine swapped 429 cu in. Lots weight reduction car. Out ET/trapped him. So shows at the track and on the street he will lose. Now he has put a plate kit on so who knows.
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So how much horsepower does each additional cam make?
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
My point is he isn't getting it done on a stock engine like I am. Wow a SC on 10lbs boost, stock headers, stock suspension, stock tranny. And I still weigh more right now. Compared to a engine swapped 429 cu in. Lots weight reduction car. Out ET/trapped him. So shows at the track and on the street he will lose. Now he has put a plate kit on so who knows.
10lb's of boost is huge. Don't down play it. With out losses from heat/parasitic you should about double n/a output on 15lb. There has been plenty of pick-up truck ls motors make more than you with boost.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
10lb's of boost is huge. Don't down play it. With out losses from heat/parasitic you should about double n/a output on 15lb. There has been plenty of pick-up truck ls motors make more than you with boost.
10lbs on the set I have isn't much. Like said still on stock exhaust minus cat delete. And there is plenty of cars making more power then me. There is least 6 2011+ making over 1000whp. Plus 1 being built right now that should come close. He least has potential to do so with the TT. also I know a Guy local that is just waiting on his TT kit to show up. He already has a forged engine. And you can make that with stock cams and stock heads. It will be a while till I go to 15lbs. And when do I will actually skip over it and go to 18-20.
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Originally Posted by Heater
So how much horsepower does each additional cam make?
Just look at the stock power difference and the power potential of a 4v and an old pushrod 5.0.
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Originally Posted by FlatBlackZ28
Just look at the stock power difference and the power potential of a 4v and an old pushrod 5.0.

That is due to cylinder head flow.




Still waiting for someone to tell me how much hp each additional cam makes.


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