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to race or not to.?

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I work with a guy, who wants to race for 500$. he has a f150 Harley-Davidson supercharged truck. he claims makes 410hp and that he beat his friends Srt8 and tb ss. should I race him in my bolt on lt1, yes or no. could use the $ for rent, but don't want to lose it.


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Usually when people with trucks come out and challenge you for money they have a lot more than they are claiming. I would get eyes on his engine and ask around about his truck before I would commit to anything.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:51 PM
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if you cant afford to lose the money dont race, anything can happen.
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Yes, bet your rent money, the back seat of your car is way more comfortable than your bed.
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I'd race
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:11 PM
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I looked at it, engine only seemed to have intake. it is a Mexican guy who owns it and it has like 20in rims on It


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Nice kill. I like the part where he went WOT and jumped before the 3rd honk...

What year is it? I know the 02 ones made something like 340hp supercharged. The new ones make 411hp NA. The old 02s ran something like mid 14s stock at 95ish.

Race em for something you could afford to lose in case he's modded. If its the newer one, that makes 411hp... Those are quoted at 15.1 @ 92.

Whats your LT1 run and trap?
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Originally Posted by bizerk1
I work with a guy, who wants to race for 500$. he has a f150 Harley-Davidson supercharged truck. he claims makes 410hp and that he beat his friends Srt8 and tb ss. should I race him in my bolt on lt1, yes or no. could use the $ for rent, but don't want to lose it.


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well ill tell you this, i have an 04 lighting, makes 380 crank stock and with a pulley and tune it makes prob 400 crank. also ill tell you this guy is full of **** if its just an intake, hes probably taking his numbers from the lightnings hp ratings, the harleys are rated for less hp even though its the same motor and charger. it has different pulleys though for lower boost, that and its heavier. now the reason i bring all this comparing up from what i have raced in the lighting ( i usually dont its slow) i get beat. the trucks are quick for trucks, but thats it. the L weighs 4600lbs stock and the harley is heavier if its the 4 door. and i hope its the 4 door as the first gen had something like 280hp and did 0-60 in a slow 8 seconds. now im not gonna tell you what to do but just giving some background info.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:10 PM
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Race him in a smart car
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:29 PM
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6lb pulley trucks can a and will make 410-430 the wheels and 5xx tq... If he has the lightning upper on it...

id still ask around man... harley trucks can be FASTTTTT

also the 20's are factory
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isnt the Harley F150 the newer ones heavier(5700-5800lbs) then the Jeep SRT or the SS Trailblazer. If it only has 411hp and beat cars with 395hp and 425hp then it has to have something done to it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:40 PM
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torque...
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Set up a long race and you can't lose. My cousin's lightning made 430ish whp with either a #6 or #8 pulley, intake, exhaust, tune. We raced when I had my old ls1 formula and it was stock. I jumped out a car from a dig, he instantly pulled back and put 2 cars on me. Stayed that way until 90ish. I started walking away quickly after that. You can't lose if you run it out to 130+. The 99-04 lightning realistically weighed in around 4750-4900. The Harley truck is probably 5200lbs. Hope that helps
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Why even bother? Your boat anchor LT1 probably weights more than his truck..
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Lt1 doesn't weigh much more than ls1 fbody does it?
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If u can hook youll probly beat him
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Originally Posted by Beastmode89
Set up a long race and you can't lose. My cousin's lightning made 430ish whp with either a #6 or #8 pulley, intake, exhaust, tune. We raced when I had my old ls1 formula and it was stock. I jumped out a car from a dig, he instantly pulled back and put 2 cars on me. Stayed that way until 90ish. I started walking away quickly after that. You can't lose if you run it out to 130+. The 99-04 lightning realistically weighed in around 4750-4900. The Harley truck is probably 5200lbs. Hope that helps
exactly. lightning/harley loses edge and power up top, just kinda falls off. high rolls in the truck are complete garbage. he may pull on you right away but dont let that scare you.
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Originally Posted by SVTconfused
6lb pulley trucks can a and will make 410-430 the wheels and 5xx tq... If he has the lightning upper on it...

id still ask around man... harley trucks can be FASTTTTT

also the 20's are factory
cant forget the weight man. 5200lbs the 410 hp turns into ****. and agreed any vehicle can be fast but its the money and work needed. for example i know a buddy did a whipple swap and tune, E85 and suspension still only ran a 12. OP, heres two lightnings running they are close to stock and lighter than the harley. id say you have nothing to worry about.

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Ok. I use to race my dads 02 Harley against my TBSS when I had it & his mods were basically pulley swap, tune and exhaust. He would run side by side with me until 90-95 or so before I started a good pull. Unlike the Lightnings, the Harleys do hook a whole lot better.

From a dig if you're running a short distance you may be SOL especially if you can't launch.
From a roll you'll beat him up top. (IF HE'S BASIC BOLT-ON)

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if you don't have the money to lose, don't do it because they can be quick.
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If your scared go to church... YOLO




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