Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

Bolt on LS1 WS6 vs 2010 SS with intake

Old 10-14-2013, 12:06 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Bolt on LS1 WS6 vs 2010 SS with intake

So contrary to my screen name, I'm actually the owner of the SS. Last I was on this site I did have a T/A though. Anyway enough formalities...

My car is a 6-speed SS with intake and some minor ecu (removed torque management, other small things) adjustments via hp tuners. I ran into this beautiful and amazing sounding black WS6 at a stoplight. Light turned green and we both took off a little harder the normal (gauging if each one us was going to punch it) and proceeded to get on it from there. We were literally nose to nose from the light to around 70 where we let off. This happened again at the next light with the same results... Nose to nose.

Got to the next light and we both complimented each other on the cars and I asked what he had done (i/e/h)

Overall my first run in again an f-body and I was quite happy with the outcome
Old 10-14-2013, 12:15 PM
  #2  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
OneSlowV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: East Texas
Posts: 406
Received 218 Likes on 136 Posts
Default

Good runs nice SS
Old 10-14-2013, 01:38 PM
  #3  
Teching In
 
i2disturbedSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Great Falls
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Assuming 6speed manuel?
Old 10-14-2013, 02:10 PM
  #4  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Good runs nice SS
Thanks, much appreciated!


Originally Posted by i2disturbedSS
Assuming 6speed manuel?

Are you referring to me or the WS6? I mentioned that I was a 6-speed. I believe he said he was as well but don't quote me on that.
Old 10-14-2013, 02:15 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
Austin_Ws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nice run! How do you like the SS?
Old 10-14-2013, 02:46 PM
  #6  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was a little disappointed with the pull down (under 3K rpms) low initially and really missed the torquey feel of my WS6 but after removing torque management and doing those previously mentioned little tweaks REALLY woke the car up.

I still miss my WS6 at times, especially the styling (still to me one of the best looking cars) but the SS is just a more complete car (and has a usable backseat for my new son). After having the SS now for over 6 months I must say I fell in love with it and have no intention of getting rid of her for anything else (other then maybe a 6th gen if I don't mod the crap out of her before they come out lol).
Old 10-14-2013, 02:53 PM
  #7  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
LS1rob00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Nice kill!

Grab a few more bolt-on's and walk on by him next time
Old 10-14-2013, 03:08 PM
  #8  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Nice kill!

Grab a few more bolt-on's and walk on by him next time
Thank you... and that is the plan.

My plan of attack is ported TB, LT's, cam, and of course a tune. Some supporting suspension mods to go along as well. That usually puts us around 450-470whp and I think I'd be pretty happy with that.
Old 10-14-2013, 03:36 PM
  #9  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
LS1rob00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SilverTAWS602
Thank you... and that is the plan.

My plan of attack is ported TB, LT's, cam, and of course a tune. Some supporting suspension mods to go along as well. That usually puts us around 450-470whp and I think I'd be pretty happy with that.
Sounds like a good plan. Don't forget some sticky tires. I also think you'd benefit well from some 3.91 gears, they make a solid difference on M6 5th gens.
Old 10-14-2013, 03:39 PM
  #10  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Sounds like a good plan. Don't forget some sticky tires. I also think you'd benefit well from some 3.91 gears, they make a solid difference on M6 5th gens.
Yes totally forgot to mention the 1LE gear set .... definitely in the cards as well. I figured sticky tires were a given unless I wanted to run 14s with 450whp lol
Old 10-14-2013, 03:42 PM
  #11  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
LS1rob00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SilverTAWS602
Yes totally forgot to mention the 1LE gear set .... definitely in the cards as well. I figured sticky tires were a given unless I wanted to run 14s with 450whp lol
Well, you would be surprised how many people don't take that into consideration! Lol. Good luck with the modding.
Old 10-14-2013, 04:22 PM
  #12  
Staging Lane
 
snake95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rent Free in Hio's Mind
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

Nice kill! Always more fun when the other guy is cool about it, too.
Old 10-14-2013, 04:34 PM
  #13  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by snake95
Nice kill! Always more fun when the other guy is cool about it, too.
Agreed... very much so

What actually surprised me is when I found out he had fully bolt-ons that we were nose to nose. I was always under the assumption that stock vs stock these cars were a dead heat. I assumed a fully bolted LS1 vs my basically intake only SS would have been him pulling away.

For all I know the torque management in these cars really hampers them in stock condition...
Old 10-14-2013, 05:32 PM
  #14  
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
 
dekan513's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: pikeville , ky
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the torque man. killes these cars . it really helps . but just like anything else they are strong and weak cars. but like u i have a 5th gen . got it modded out like i want . it does very well for what i want. 5th gens get a bad wrap . but with a lil want to they can be fast. i ran my fastest all motor pass yesterday. 11.4 with a 1.81 60'. cam and boltons only. car has alot of 60' left in it. they are fun all around cars tho.
Old 10-14-2013, 06:05 PM
  #15  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

60 ft was my issue too. Out here in Vegas we normally run about .4-.5 slower with 1-2mph less as well. First time at the track best I could do was a 2.3 60-ft and a 13.6@106. I figured out at sea level its a 13.2 @ 108.5. I know I can get the car to do LOW LOW 13's out here if I can get the launch down. Just a matter of practice. Sadly I only got 4 runs in last I went. Going again Friday so fingers crossed I can do better.
Old 10-14-2013, 06:25 PM
  #16  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (17)
 
AnotherWs6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 2,672
Likes: 0
Received 36 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

Nice boat. Not bad for an 8 ton car. WS6 owner/lover talking trash. Are you gonna buy the next Cadillac yacht with a bowtie on it as well?
Old 10-14-2013, 09:41 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
S8ER95Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NC
Posts: 1,465
Received 51 Likes on 37 Posts

Default

Nice run... I would have guessed he would pull you a little but a well driven 5th gen is still a touch quicker/faster stock vs stock, with your mods I could see it being damn close.
Old 10-15-2013, 12:00 AM
  #18  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
SilverTAWS602's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Nice run... I would have guessed he would pull you a little but a well driven 5th gen is still a touch quicker/faster stock vs stock, with your mods I could see it being damn close.
Thanks, yeah I always felt the 5th Gen was a hair faster but still a drivers race. Hopefully get some more good runs this Friday
Old 10-20-2013, 08:56 AM
  #19  
10 Second Club
 
big hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: over dere
Posts: 3,428
Received 152 Likes on 104 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SilverTAWS602
I was a little disappointed with the pull down (under 3K rpms) low initially and really missed the torquey feel of my WS6 but after removing torque management and doing those previously mentioned little tweaks REALLY woke the car up.

I still miss my WS6 at times, especially the styling (still to me one of the best looking cars) but the SS is just a more complete car (and has a usable backseat for my new son). After having the SS now for over 6 months I must say I fell in love with it and have no intention of getting rid of her for anything else (other then maybe a 6th gen if I don't mod the crap out of her before they come out lol).
word. it's amazing how much GM neuters their vehicles with TM. my neighbours 2010 l99 ran like 14 seconds @ 103 ish stock.


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Bolt on LS1 WS6 vs 2010 SS with intake



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 PM.