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Old 12-03-2013, 09:10 PM
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So I have a 2001 ls1 with air lid and flowmaster exhaust. never dyno'd Still has the flat y pipe. I know leave it alone. Other guy had a 2004 GT mustang. He has full exhaust, 3.55 gears, and a frost tune. Says he makes 315 to the wheel. We take off in first not very hard then we hit it together. Maybe I had the hit a touch. first was even, end of second I was 1 car ahead and by mid third was almost 2 ahead. could tell he backed off. Does that sound about right? have not raced many stangs. Live in socal so its very risky. Any thought would be cool
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No way mustangs never lose to ls cars....but in the off chance that this is true, I would guess that he is making about 290 to the tires and you maybe 310-315.
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If he is 315 to the tire then he has a lot more work done than that.
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315 rwhp seems pretty high for a 2v that started with 260hp. Most 3v stangs make that after boltons.
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What are they stock? Like 220rwhp?
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About 220-230
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As a former owner of a 2004 Mustang gt, I can tell you he makes around 260 rwhp with those mods. Your race sounds totally right to me
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
As a former owner of a 2004 Mustang gt, I can tell you he makes around 260 rwhp with those mods. Your race sounds totally right to me
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If the OP is an auto... I would guess 295ish rwhp. Stick is prob more like 305ish rwhp.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
As a former owner of a 2004 Mustang gt, I can tell you he makes around 260 rwhp with those mods. Your race sounds totally right to me
If he has longtubes it might be closer to 270rwhp, but agreed. But wtf does he have 3.55s for?
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Yup, sounds about right to me.
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Originally Posted by Blownbayou
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If the OP is an auto... I would guess 295ish rwhp. Stick is prob more like 305ish rwhp.
Dynos vary but I made 324rwhp/341rwtrq with just free ram air (stock paper filter). Nothing else touched on my 01 z28 M6, no lid or anything.
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IIRC, JamRWS6 dynoed 333rwhp w/ just a lid in his '02 WS6 6spd. MIGHT have also had shorty headers, but I seem to remember it being just the lid. He's the one I saw run 12.99 @ 110mph with just the lid and SFCs. 2.15 60'.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
As a former owner of a 2004 Mustang gt, I can tell you he makes around 260 rwhp with those mods. Your race sounds totally right to me
Werd. Maybe he meant 315 @ the crank lol. Even then...meh. Sounds like he hung in there fairly we'll though, nice kill OP
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It just takes so damn much for those modular 2 valves to perform well that's it's really almost not worth it lol. Your best bet with one of those is to go straight for blower and call it good lol. Case in point, mine made 285 rwhp with full bolt ons, cams, gears, and tune, and still with all that it was a drivers race with my buddy's stock 04 Vette. The old PI headed 2 valves seem to do much better in a short race (maybe due to weight, gearing, etc) but suffered bad on the top end. My cams helped with that and with a 3.90 gear, but it still wasn't great
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2004 GT's came special from the factory with 700hp. He probably missed a shift or four.
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Originally Posted by Turbo2vGT
2004 GT's came special from the factory with 700hp. He probably missed a shift or four.
Yes but only the anniversary additions. Along with different floor mats as well
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wait, wait wut? Frost tune on a 2v Mustang?
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
It just takes so damn much for those modular 2 valves to perform well that's it's really almost not worth it lol. Your best bet with one of those is to go straight for blower and call it good lol. Case in point, mine made 285 rwhp with full bolt ons, cams, gears, and tune, and still with all that it was a drivers race with my buddy's stock 04 Vette. The old PI headed 2 valves seem to do much better in a short race (maybe due to weight, gearing, etc) but suffered bad on the top end. My cams helped with that and with a 3.90 gear, but it still wasn't great
I'd do nothing less than 4.10s in a GT, especially with cams. 4.30s in an N/A Cobra/Mach. Don't fear the gear!
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I heard that a 2v bullit can touch 14's.
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Non-boosted 2v's are turds for the most part.


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