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Old 05-05-2014, 05:18 PM
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Default Bolt-on A6 Coyote vs Stock A6 C7

Not my video, but found this race interesting. Thought the 5.0 would definitely pull away. The C7 in this video is strong indeed!

2012 Ford Mustang 5.0 Automatic
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just like 1993 all over again...
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pretty much what I expected
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No doubt the new vette is faster than a bolt on 5.0.
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The stang did alright considering it probably has similar rwhp as the vette, but is around 400 lbs heavier
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Nice vid.
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I dunno if a 5.0 with headers and tune would even pull away from a stock c6
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The new lt1 with direct injection is a very good combo...
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that's going to be whats in the new 3500 pound 6th gen. going to be sweet.
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Wish they would've went from a dig


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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Wish they would've went from a dig
would have been worse.
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I know ; )
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Originally Posted by big hammer
that's going to be whats in the new 3500 pound 6th gen. going to be sweet.
This.

I had no desire whatsoever to get a fifth gen, but if the sixth gen gets the new LT1 and is on the smaller and lighter ATS Alpha platform it will be a DAMN tempting deal, especially if the price stays similar. The 5.0 will be in trouble...

Seriously...H/C sixth gen with a hair of weight reduction is gonna be a ******* monster. 500+rwhp @ ~3400 pounds? Yes please.

GM admittedly slipped up and let Ford get ahead with the current Mustang/Camaro fued, but I highly doubt they will let them continue.
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Originally Posted by Puck
This.

I had no desire whatsoever to get a fifth gen, but if the sixth gen gets the new LT1 and is on the smaller and lighter ATS Alpha platform it will be a DAMN tempting deal, especially if the price stays similar. The 5.0 will be in trouble...

Seriously...H/C sixth gen with a hair of weight reduction is gonna be a ******* monster. 500+rwhp @ ~3400 pounds? Yes please.

GM admittedly slipped up and let Ford get ahead with the current Mustang/Camaro fued, but I highly doubt they will let them continue.

gm didn't really "slip up". in 2010 the Camaro crushed the mustang. after that it's a toss up with base GT models having a slight advantage. gm has better engines, but couldn't make the SS as fast as a vette.
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Originally Posted by audacious nick
I dunno if a 5.0 with headers and tune would even pull away from a stock c6
An LS3 I would assume not, an LS2 definitely.
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This.

I had no desire whatsoever to get a fifth gen, but if the sixth gen gets the new LT1 and is on the smaller and lighter ATS Alpha platform it will be a DAMN tempting deal, especially if the price stays similar. The 5.0 will be in trouble...

Seriously...H/C sixth gen with a hair of weight reduction is gonna be a ******* monster. 500+rwhp @ ~3400 pounds? Yes please.

GM admittedly slipped up and let Ford get ahead with the current Mustang/Camaro fued, but I highly doubt they will let them continue.
...have you heard about the '15 Mustang? There's certainly more details known about it than this new ATS-based Camaro that's coming up. Given the details that are known/assumed based off of tangible evidence, it's gonna be quicker than the current car. So I wouldn't toss the next round in the bag for GM automatically.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
An LS3 I would assume not, an LS2 definitely.

...have you heard about the '15 Mustang? There's certainly more details known about it than this new ATS-based Camaro that's coming up. Given the details that are known/assumed based off of tangible evidence, it's gonna be quicker than the current car. So I wouldn't toss the next round in the bag for GM automatically.
the new mustang is going to be as heavy or heavier, with a very moderate HP bump going through an HP robbing, harder to hook up IRS. it'll be as quick at best.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
gm didn't really "slip up". in 2010 the Camaro crushed the mustang. after that it's a toss up with base GT models having a slight advantage. gm has better engines, but couldn't make the SS as fast as a vette.
The car was too heavy from day one. Beautiful car, and impressive in its own right (I love the new Z/28!)...but the damn thing is a pig.

They have the superior motor, but with all the extra size and weight its not a performance focused car anymore. It's like 300-400lbs heavier then a 5.0 . I'm die hard GM but the 5.0 is a better deal then the 5th gen Camaro as much as it KILLS me to say it. If they can make it smaller and lose almost 500lbs, while adding power with the stellar new LT1, then it will be a HUGE hit.

I'd still get a used vette over a new camaro, but in a year or two when used ones start popping up for cheap then it will be a damn tempting deal.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the new mustang is going to be as heavy or heavier, with a very moderate HP bump going through an HP robbing, harder to hook up IRS. it'll be as quick at best.
This.
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Originally Posted by Puck
The car was too heavy from day one. Beautiful car, and impressive in its own right (I love the new Z/28!)...but the damn thing is a pig.

They have the superior motor, but with all the extra size and weight its not a performance focused car anymore. It's like 300-400lbs heavier then a 5.0 . I'm die hard GM but the 5.0 is a better deal then the 5th gen Camaro as much as it KILLS me to say it. If they can make it smaller and lose almost 500lbs, while adding power with the stellar new LT1, then it will be a HUGE hit.

I'd still get a used vette over a new camaro, but in a year or two when used ones start popping up for cheap then it will be a damn tempting deal.
the Camaro was designed for two things. to beat the current mustang at the time and sell well. it achieved both of those things. in fact it sold very well. most of the time better than the mustang. and if you remember in the 90's we were told by the blue oval camp that sales are the only thing that mattered.....
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Originally Posted by audacious nick
I dunno if a 5.0 with headers and tune would even pull away from a stock c6
I could see one pulling but not by leaps and bounds from a roll lol


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