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Old 06-20-2014, 11:35 PM
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I beat a 2010 l99 with my lightly modded ls1 so badly I actually felt bad for the guy.
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I have never fooled with a l99 car. My buds was a ls3. I do know the l99 can be hit or miss. I think that is mostly due to that fuse pull mod on those.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I say 2002 because I think the 5.0 is more comparable to the 2002 ls6 power wise.

So yea....welcome to 2002.
So you are saying welcome the ls3 to 2002 then lol. The Camaro runs ls1 times. Only thing the new one does better is look and have a better shell.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
So you are saying welcome the ls3 to 2002 then lol. The Camaro runs ls1 times. Only thing the new one does better is look and have a better shell.
Nope.....as I stated 5th gens are a tad faster. Besides. ......we were talking engines not cars. In that case the ls3 is more powerful than the ls6. It's a shame that gm did not get as agressive with the cam in the ls3 as they did the ls6. It would have been a real monster then.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Nope.....as I stated 5th gens are a tad faster. Besides. ......we were talking engines not cars. In that case the ls3 is more powerful than the ls6. It's a shame that gm did not get as agressive with the cam in the ls3 as they did the ls6. It would have been a real monster then.
yeah it's too bad they didn't at least use the ls6 cam.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I have never fooled with a l99 car. My buds was a ls3. I do know the l99 can be hit or miss. I think that is mostly due to that fuse pull mod on those.
when an L99 runs bad, they run BAD. I think that had a lot to do with the stigma that 5th gens are slow.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
when an L99 runs bad, they run BAD. I think that had a lot to do with the stigma that 5th gens are slow.
Most fif gens are slow.
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Originally Posted by islander033
Most fif gens are slow.
that makes 5.0's slow *** well!
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Originally Posted by big hammer
that makes 5.0's slow *** well!
Most NA 5.Br0s aren't fast.
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If I had to choose between a 5th gen. camaro or a new 5.0 stang...I would be getting my first ford! Now if a new COPO or Cobra jet i'd stay GM cause they're both bad as ****!
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My G8 puts a hurting on LS3 Camaro's and 5.bro's all the time
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Congrats on being a better driver.
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Originally Posted by audacious nick
Congrats on being a better driver.
I have more Powa then bolt on Camaro's and 5.0's. I put it in drive and go

A lot of it is variables. I know a well driven Camaro and 5.0 should give me a run, but 8/10 drivers don't know how to drive or mod their cars properly.
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****, when I leave my car in drive and I floor it, my friend can usually get a full 1-1/2 car length on me in his 5.0. And my car traps 10mph faster than him. So yup, I know what you mean.
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Originally Posted by Heater
I would liked to seen how the 5.0 would of ran with you behind the wheel Chris.


Looks like to me it was two inexperienced drivers and then you drove the Camero and that made all the difference.
Agreed.

Originally Posted by Cwarta
However I would give the edge to the 5.0 stock for stock
Agreed

Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Nice runs. 5.0 def has edge stock to stock. Newer car so why the butt hurt?
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Originally Posted by CyrusVette81
You mean a 15 year old, extremely underrated horsepower car....the new 5.0s are extremely impressive. Your talkin 2 cars that should have likely identical rwhp. It's bias pigs like you that give car guys bad names.
Not true. 5.0s tend to have about 370whp on dynojets, and LS1s tend to see maybe 300-310whp or so stock.

But dynos vary... as the same dyno I made 372 at... this 5.0 cut 340.

Same dyno, this L99 A6 with headers, intake and tune puts out 332

LS3 Camaro with headers, 390whp

Its a MD thats known to read notoriously low.

Case and point is... it can always be close enough to be a driver's race. An LS1 can definitely give a 5.0 a run for its money if the driver is caught off. But all things considered, stock for stock, the 5.0 should make more power, and should have the edge.
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Originally Posted by odthetruth
Agreed.



Agreed



Agreed.



Not true. 5.0s tend to have about 370whp on dynojets, and LS1s tend to see maybe 300-310whp or so stock.

But dynos vary... as the same dyno I made 372 at... this 5.0 cut 340.
BracketRacing.com - Dyno at Tune Time Performance - 2013 Mustang GT/CS - YouTube

Same dyno, this L99 A6 with headers, intake and tune puts out 332
L99 Camaro SS Dyno Tune after Headers installed. Tune Time Performance - YouTube

LS3 Camaro with headers, 390whp
LS3 Camaro SS on the dyno after Header install Tune Time Performance - YouTube

Its a MD thats known to read notoriously low.

Case and point is... it can always be close enough to be a driver's race. An LS1 can definitely give a 5.0 a run for its money if the driver is caught off. But all things considered, stock for stock, the 5.0 should make more power, and should have the edge.
That 5.0 sounds like a A6 to me.
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mustang dynos aren't very accurate or good for comparing dyno numbers with
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
dynos aren't very accurate or good for comparing performance with
Fixed. I'll agree with the above, since dynos in general are different based on location, owner, and type of dyno. No reason a mustang dyno is any less accurate than a dyno dynamics. Both being load bearing dynos.

Going to a specific dyno just to get high numbers is dyno queen nonsense, as it seems loaded dynos work better for tuning from what I've seen.
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