Mappinsj

out with about 4 mustangs last night, looking to race

5.0 was track pack, with cold air intake, full exhaust, tune
vs me 2000 ls1 with ls6 intake, slp lid, gutted cats and flowmaster, no tune

only thing i wish was different, is i had just put a full tank of gas in my car before the chance encounter with the guy

he did not take my car seriously, little did he expect that i would hold dead even with him from 60-90 MPH, then he pulled my headlights out, we let out at 125-130, both our 1:1 gears were topped out, (i had like 200 RPM left that is not much)

i was not able to grab my phone till 90MPH i had to start in gear and push it into third then grab the video and hit play, intense lol

HCI2000SS

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Looked like he started to pull you pretty hard towards the end but that's to be expected. No shame in losing there

redbird555

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Good runs man not surprising though given your limited mods. Add a set of nice 1-7/8 headers, a real exhaust, and a tune and I bet it would be a lot better. A srt of gears would be even better as well. Dont believe the unicorn stories that you need a full on Cam setup to keep up with a bolt on 5.0

OneSlowV

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Good run man !

Mappinsj

Pretty sure if i put a 6MT back in my car i would have held him better.
On top of the full tank of gas i had. (no excuses though)
He didn't pull me when he went into his 1:1. his third gear pull was GOODBYE LS1.

My plan is to do 1-7/8headers into 3 inch y pipe and a cutout with a tune.

His mustang is faster than any 5.0 i have seen. He raced my friends 96 supercharged cobra and they held dead even, (cobra pulled a bumper, was about to pull more) until the 5.0 fucked up, when the 96 cobra went into 4th he would have pulled the 5.0 3 cars because the 5.0 pulled me 3 and 96 cobra pulls me 6
(that is some serious internet racing hahaha)

96 cobra is running with 4.10 so his roll races are shitty he is on 8 pounds, he is a very good driver, he has been driving cobras for years, never seen him miss a shift and i drive thousands of miles with the guy

OneSlowV

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You know who tuned the 5.0 ? Tuning ether makes or breaks the 5.0s lol

Mappinsj

its a bama tune i think? its pretty damn fast but its not putting down 440 to the wheels

big hammer

Nice run! Less gas and equal mods should make you neck and neck

Mappinsj

once i find a thousand dollars for the full exhaust/tune i will do it, but i am not sure i will run even with him because i lack the 6MT, i am in my 1:1 gear while he is pulling

the 5.0 has some ridiculously nice gearing for roll races
the 5.0 doesnt get into 1:1 gearing until 5th gear!!!
i just found the 5.0 gearing and it is
3.66 > 2.43 > 1.69 > 1.33 > and a fifth gear of 1:1

when i was roll racing him i started in the power band of my second gear which is my 1.5 gear, then i go right into the bottom of my 1:1

that mustang was in his 1.69, then he pulled my *** off when he went to his 1.33, i was in 1:1

when he went to his 1:1, i was in power band and his car stopped pulling the train.

TEK302

Typical feminine 5.0 power band

Sticks n Stones

mustang was playing with you. He should have destroyed you from any starting spot if he had the mods you listed. If he was stock or mild tune only I could it being sorta close. A stang with those mods should be running 117-119mph in the 1/4, while you should be running 108-110mph range. You would need a cam and headers to match him if he had the mods you listed.

Mappinsj

problem with what your saying is that i know the guy, and he couldn't believe how fast my car was. and if you still think he was playing with me go back and watch this video, because the only car you can hear is his.

big hammer

Yeah the 5.0 is geared very aggressively to band aid that feminine power band

Sticks n Stones

Driver error then? Problem is, I've street raced against so many stock to fully built fbodies that I can't even count so I know what they run. I've also raced against a dozen+ 5.0's also, though most of those were random street encounters. Not to mention all the guys at the track in the 5.0 crowd that run high 11's with just full boltons, tire, and tune. Considering I run mid 11's I pay attention to other 11 second cars!

Speaking of which, here is a track pack, full bolton/tune friend of mine racing me a few days after I ran an 11.6 @118mph during a test n tune:

Mappinsj

you know like i said, he didn't even expect the race to be any where near what it was, my car is fast and i know his runs 11s, but there was nothing he could do to pull me any harder

i ran my car when i first got it, it still had ls1 intake, i ran 13.3 starting at idle, when i changed my filter (bought a new sprectre) i looked at the old one and i couldnt even see the direct sun through it, i smacked it and sand was FLOWING out of it.

i have never increased anything from a filter before. but i added 5 MPG with this one, i know it was 5 MPG because i track every mile i drive

i never cease to be amazed with an LS1 camaro

Mappinsj

and considering the race you just showed me, you pulled back on that 5.0 very very hard for a car that hit the gas first.

a good hit is not easy to come back from


also, those 5.0 run 11s, look at their first gear, its 3.66> that goes right into a 2.43, that is so much torque multiplication, considering also the 3.73 gearing, it better run 11s

my first gear is 3.059> that cuts straight into 1.5,

NateLS1Mustang

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What's the setup on your car?

HCI2000SS

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So how bad did you beat the 5.0?

Deeohgie69

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As for comparison, here's my cammed, stalled, full exhaust ls1 with 2.73's against a 2014 5.0 with catback and tune. I don't think headers and intake would close the gap that he needed. From a dig would even be worse for him.

Sticks n Stones

boltons/tune makes a big difference. Here is a vid against what I assume was a stock 5.0 where I also gave him the hit:


When I was heads/cam/stall against a FULL bolton M6 fbody (LS6 intake, electric water pump, bigger maf/tb cai/tubular control arms, 3.42 gears w/locker, headers, ory, and a bunch of other little stuff I can't remember.) I ran a 12.1 @115mph with that setup a couple weeks earlier. The run at :30 is where actually honk it off and I hurt his feelings. When I ran that 12.1 (and the rest where 12.2's) there was a friend of a friend there with his new 5.0 with cai, tune, y pipe and drag radials who was matching my time and speed run after run. No headers or catback on his. Now compare these two videos and do the math on how much a 5.0 picks up with tune/cai/ y pipe...