another geared lbo ls1 vs 5.0 lbo
03-07-2016, 11:09 PM
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another geared lbo ls1 vs 5.0 lbo Just to even out the odds here, have a look at this vid. Don't pay attention to the slow *** 2v boosted 4.6. There are as many 5.0's winning as ls1's, however a stockish ls1 just can't hang with a stock or lbo yote as I stated before. Yes I'm stirring the pot btw. This is coming from the owner of 4 previous f body's and a gto and several C6's and Z06's. I'm non biased.
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03-08-2016, 12:09 AM
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I'm sure I'll get flamed by some, but I honestly have zero to gain by lying about anything.
Back when my car had catback only, I ran a 11-14 (not sure the year, but it was the year 2014 lol) convertible automatic 5.0. My kid was with with me (225ish lbs. We ran 3 runs, 1st was 70-125, the others were 50-120. All 3 runs I pulled him between 2-2.5 cars.
After I was SLP lid and catback only, I ran another 11-14 that was bone stock and an auto that I put about 3 cars on from a 35-125ish. Talked to him at the light, but I didn't ask what year, it was night time and he said he just got it, so probably 13-14.
I know that the fact both were auto's, one being a vert made a difference. Also the fact that I barely has 12k miles on mine probably helped too. Believe it or not, it happened. I know that some run better than others, look at poppas car, I think it runs damn good for his mods!
So it is possible for them to beat a bone stock one, I've witnessed it. Maybe it's more on the rare side, but definitely not impossible to do.
Back when my car had catback only, I ran a 11-14 (not sure the year, but it was the year 2014 lol) convertible automatic 5.0. My kid was with with me (225ish lbs. We ran 3 runs, 1st was 70-125, the others were 50-120. All 3 runs I pulled him between 2-2.5 cars.
After I was SLP lid and catback only, I ran another 11-14 that was bone stock and an auto that I put about 3 cars on from a 35-125ish. Talked to him at the light, but I didn't ask what year, it was night time and he said he just got it, so probably 13-14.
I know that the fact both were auto's, one being a vert made a difference. Also the fact that I barely has 12k miles on mine probably helped too. Believe it or not, it happened. I know that some run better than others, look at poppas car, I think it runs damn good for his mods!
So it is possible for them to beat a bone stock one, I've witnessed it. Maybe it's more on the rare side, but definitely not impossible to do.
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03-08-2016, 03:41 AM
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Are both sides really this insecure? Here are the facts.
Stock 5.0 averages high 12's@109 with hero runs in the mid 12's@112
Stock LS1 Fbody averages low 13's@107 with hero runs in the high 12's@109
In a perfect world, the 5.0L is faster bone stock. Mod for mod, the 5.0L will make more power and be faster than the LS1. The 5.0L is clearly a stronger motor than the LS1, but the added weight of the mustang is the deciding factor.
All that being said, anything can happen on the street, especially on cars that are within a few tenths of each other bone stock. So yes, your lid/catback car did beat a bone stock 5.0, and yes some FBO 5.0's beat cam only LS1's.
And I know that the LS1 cheerleaders are going to come in here screaming about how they personally have never witnessed a 5.0L run 12's stock. I don't care what you've witnessed, you're not a credible source, and there are far more 5.0's in 12's than there are 13's.
Oh, and I am not a ford nuthugger either. My last three daily drivers have been 98 Formula, 92 Vette, and 00 WS6.
Stock 5.0 averages high 12's@109 with hero runs in the mid 12's@112
Stock LS1 Fbody averages low 13's@107 with hero runs in the high 12's@109
In a perfect world, the 5.0L is faster bone stock. Mod for mod, the 5.0L will make more power and be faster than the LS1. The 5.0L is clearly a stronger motor than the LS1, but the added weight of the mustang is the deciding factor.
All that being said, anything can happen on the street, especially on cars that are within a few tenths of each other bone stock. So yes, your lid/catback car did beat a bone stock 5.0, and yes some FBO 5.0's beat cam only LS1's.
And I know that the LS1 cheerleaders are going to come in here screaming about how they personally have never witnessed a 5.0L run 12's stock. I don't care what you've witnessed, you're not a credible source, and there are far more 5.0's in 12's than there are 13's.
Oh, and I am not a ford nuthugger either. My last three daily drivers have been 98 Formula, 92 Vette, and 00 WS6.
03-08-2016, 05:11 AM
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^ I would half to agree with u for the most part. In my eyes a well set up bolt-on, tune 5.0 is hard to beat on the streets. No doubt they run strong as hell and respond awsome to bolt-ons. But I would also say there are more half *** set up ls1's out there that could run just as hard but ppl lack to actually take there time an set there car up right to do it! A good set up bolt-on, geared ls1 should walk a stock 5.0 but even after just a simple tune the 5.0 turns into a hole other beast! Idk I like seeing how close they both can be just by the difference set ups ppl try to run... a a4 with 410s half to b crazy anytime it down shifts lol
03-08-2016, 06:36 AM
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Are both sides really this insecure? Here are the facts.
Stock 5.0 averages high 12's@109 with hero runs in the mid 12's@112
Stock LS1 Fbody averages low 13's@107 with hero runs in the high 12's@109
In a perfect world, the 5.0L is faster bone stock. Mod for mod, the 5.0L will make more power and be faster than the LS1. The 5.0L is clearly a stronger motor than the LS1, but the added weight of the mustang is the deciding factor.
All that being said, anything can happen on the street, especially on cars that are within a few tenths of each other bone stock. So yes, your lid/catback car did beat a bone stock 5.0, and yes some FBO 5.0's beat cam only LS1's.
And I know that the LS1 cheerleaders are going to come in here screaming about how they personally have never witnessed a 5.0L run 12's stock. I don't care what you've witnessed, you're not a credible source, and there are far more 5.0's in 12's than there are 13's.
Oh, and I am not a ford nuthugger either. My last three daily drivers have been 98 Formula, 92 Vette, and 00 WS6.
Stock 5.0 averages high 12's@109 with hero runs in the mid 12's@112
Stock LS1 Fbody averages low 13's@107 with hero runs in the high 12's@109
In a perfect world, the 5.0L is faster bone stock. Mod for mod, the 5.0L will make more power and be faster than the LS1. The 5.0L is clearly a stronger motor than the LS1, but the added weight of the mustang is the deciding factor.
All that being said, anything can happen on the street, especially on cars that are within a few tenths of each other bone stock. So yes, your lid/catback car did beat a bone stock 5.0, and yes some FBO 5.0's beat cam only LS1's.
And I know that the LS1 cheerleaders are going to come in here screaming about how they personally have never witnessed a 5.0L run 12's stock. I don't care what you've witnessed, you're not a credible source, and there are far more 5.0's in 12's than there are 13's.
Oh, and I am not a ford nuthugger either. My last three daily drivers have been 98 Formula, 92 Vette, and 00 WS6.
03-08-2016, 06:38 AM
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Driving my Full Exhaust/ Ls6 intake Auto car one day and meet up with a buddy that just bought a brand new '11 GT. Car was a bone stock M6 car, both of us on Mickey E/T street radials. He drug my a$$ from a dig and roll. My car would go 12.7-12.8 @ 109-110 with the stock converter 3.23 car. Dig was worst obviously because of stock converter lol but the roll was about 2.5 cars from 20-120.
03-08-2016, 06:53 AM
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So when is a A4 with a stock converter considered FBO? Fbody needs a converter...listen to the 2-3 rpm drop. That is where it loses steam, then stops the Bros pull at the top of 3rd. It needs a 36-4000 stall and a 3:42 -3:73 gear.
Nice troll attempt, still proves nothing.
Nice troll attempt, still proves nothing.
03-08-2016, 07:11 AM
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So when is a A4 with a stock converter considered FBO? Fbody needs a converter...listen to the 2-3 rpm drop. That is where it loses steam, then stops the Bros pull at the top of 3rd. It needs a 36-4000 stall and a 3:42 -3:73 gear.
Nice troll attempt, still proves nothing.
Nice troll attempt, still proves nothing.
03-08-2016, 07:47 AM
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I say we all agree its a drivers race and move on. So many variables on the street "established times" for cars dont mean ****. Then of course you could get into driver mods, temp, barometer, tunes, tires, tire pressure, spark plugs,etc, etc.
Discussing this is like asking a retard to put a square block through a circular hole.....they'll keep going and going but never accomplish anything in the end.
Discussing this is like asking a retard to put a square block through a circular hole.....they'll keep going and going but never accomplish anything in the end.
03-08-2016, 08:19 AM
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We don't need to do anything to "keep up." That's your job when you start from behind (which lets be real, is perfectly acceptable, look at the age difference). It's not like you guys can't run E85 as well, it's not cheating. I would say hiding a small shot and not mentioning it is cheating, not running a pump gas that's worth a few hp.