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Old 01-10-2005, 12:06 PM
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i beat this STi 3 months ago for some cash. He was supposed to be stock then. But i beat him only by 1.5-2 car lengths. I have same mods listed below but I added ported/polished TB since. LS6 intake manifold will be added within a month. He is supposed to be quicker now and he wants to race me for some more money. He didnt tell me exact mod but he said, "full exhaust (i assume downpipe for turbo.)" He may added boost controller from what other said. He has basic mods at most. But how fast STi with boost controller, and full exhaust. Can my TA take it from a stop? I raced him from a stop last time and i kept up with him on launch with nitto's + stall convertor. I pulled on him by little after that. How fast are STi with downpipe, intake, exhaust, and pulley from a stop in a quarter mile? 12.5?
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Stock boost is like 14.5 on them. He should be able to take a few more psi on the stock turbo. Won't see too much though. He's in the 12s for sure with those mods might want to get a power adder to be safe. I wouldn't risk the cash with your current mods unless you're real confident in driving ability. Should be a good race though.
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Stalled with some stickies, you should be able to launch pretty well. Launch well on him and you'll take away his advantage. Now, I'm not sure if his setup can trap 109, or anywhere near 109, you're gonna have a hard time. Time for some modding for ya. I would not race again for money without some more mods if I were you. TB+Ls6 intake might be just enough (10-20rwhp), but I'd look for some extra insurance. Look into a cam swap, or some spray.
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there is a reason he wants to race again for more cash.

hook up a kit on your car or back down.
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seriously, just buy some nitrous and race him for whatever you spent on the kit. free kit for you and a sure win.
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Put a dry kit on yours beat him then pull it off put it on the saturn gut it and beat him with it. (be careful with it though)
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I know i can win easily with spray aka. 100 shot on my LS1. It would be mid 11's@120. LS6 + TB would allow me to pull harder on top end. Headers and cam are next after i got Ls6 with this couple of weeks.
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Boost controllers can make a big differance. depending on much the stock turbo can handle. I wouldn't try from a dig at all.
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no race without a power adder. With a boost controller, like others have said, he's running 12s for sure. Possibly some low 12s. I would spray 150 shot to be safe.
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I was at a shootout this past sumeer @ E-town. Sti's with those bolt-ons and a good driver should net mid 12's. After mid 12's they need to upgrade the turbo as the stock one is small and a pos. Alot of these guys like to run the FP Green series of turbo's or a VF34, both of those will put that car in mid to high 11's.

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So mid 12's are what stock turbo tops out at. I am just worried that stock turbo Sti can run deep into 11'. I ran 12.5-6@108-109 1.7-8x 60'' last time in the track. I added ported/polished TB and I will add LS6 intake soon. I am hoping for 12.2-12.4@110+ after TB+LS6 intake.
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From what I have seen the stock turbo is maxed out around 12.4 range, the 3 guys I have meant that have hit 11's in these things all had upgraded turbo's. If you run @ cecil, there is a guy there with a blue one, he takes the wing off alot when he runs, has turbo upgrade and utec, think he runs 11.7's. Stick a 100 shot on there, you will whip his ***. From what I have seen, the Evo's are much more potent when set up for drag racing. Stock turbo record holder for an Evo is 11.2. That is with bolt-ons and no nitrous. Whoop his *** then come back here with a good kill story. Good luck bro.

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i saying all it would take is a lil shot of nitrous from him and he'd prolly make up the ground right there from the last race.. i say put u a wet kit on the car, nx or tnt and do things right. spray about 15ft out after u launch, no chance of hooking beneath that lol. still u might wanna have it on hand if he gets out on you and ur not pulling back. i know that sounds kinda like what a ricer would do, but to beat a ricer, sometimes u must sink to there level lol, and be a lil sneaky.
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Originally Posted by 99badta
From what I have seen the stock turbo is maxed out around 12.4 range, the 3 guys I have meant that have hit 11's in these things all had upgraded turbo's. If you run @ cecil, there is a guy there with a blue one, he takes the wing off alot when he runs, has turbo upgrade and utec, think he runs 11.7's. Stick a 100 shot on there, you will whip his ***. From what I have seen, the Evo's are much more potent when set up for drag racing. Stock turbo record holder for an Evo is 11.2. That is with bolt-ons and no nitrous. Whoop his *** then come back here with a good kill story. Good luck bro.

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i agree with you, but if they guy has a lil shot of spray on the stock turbo, hes going to prolly outrun this ls1 since this is one of the few imports we cant beat just by going from a dig, finallly they make some imports we'd have to rely on our topend to beat.. and from what ive learned, a import wanting to go from a dig is a dangerous thing since that happens .001% of the time.. id watch out for any sti or evo personally, thats why i got me tnt kit
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You might have been there the night my buddy and I hit 11's, it was a red and white Evo.

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i respect b/o evo's and sti's more then i do a 03 cobra with pulley and tune.. dont flame me any! im just saying, they launch great, and a if they sneak some n2o on your bolton car its over with.
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Originally Posted by 99badta
From what I have seen the stock turbo is maxed out around 12.4 range, the 3 guys I have meant that have hit 11's in these things all had upgraded turbo's. If you run @ cecil, there is a guy there with a blue one, he takes the wing off alot when he runs, has turbo upgrade and utec, think he runs 11.7's. Stick a 100 shot on there, you will whip his ***. From what I have seen, the Evo's are much more potent when set up for drag racing. Stock turbo record holder for an Evo is 11.2. That is with bolt-ons and no nitrous. Whoop his *** then come back here with a good kill story. Good luck bro.

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Every Sti's are blue. It seems to me that way. This kid is worried about warranty from what i heard. Stock turbo is what he got. He got some boltons for turbo cars like exhaust, boost controller and etc .... He got whooped by a 11 seconds evo couple weeks ago in another race. However, Sti is king of the street from a stop. I may wait until LT headers, ORY's, LS6 and deleted EGR and AIR to race him. At the time, I will be full bolton's LS1 high 11's/low 12's.
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hye just wondering since we have the same setup basically, whats ur best 60ft and 1/8th mile for those 1/4's and im assuming this was nittos right??

i never got to run with the stall and gear before i got my headers.. ive done a lil weight reduction here and there, and am hoping for a 12.1-12.2, should i maybe go a bit quicker? really havn't run the car since i got all these mods.. i have a ls6 intake, if it could hit a 11.99 i may put off the cam and bigger stall for a while.
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I run my car with stock size 245/50/R16 nitto full time on street and in track so I will run the Sti with nittos + 3000 rpm stall. My best 60' feet is 1.76x and I run consistant high 1.7x-1.8x with nittos and 3000 rpm stall. I think that i may do 7.9x before on 1/8. I know 8.0 is pretty consistant with 1/8 for me.


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hye just wondering since we have the same setup basically, whats ur best 60ft and 1/8th mile for those 1/4's and im assuming this was nittos right?? i never got to run with the stall and gear before i got my headers.. ive done a lil weight reduction here and there, and am hoping for a 12.1-12.2, should i maybe go a bit quicker? really havn't run the car since i got all these mods.. i have a ls6 intake, if it could hit a 11.99 i may put off the cam and bigger stall for a while.
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a week ago i raced a stock sti w/ my stock 2000 z28. the race was dead even until ni hit 3rd theni began to pull. the launch was tricky, i had to feather the clutch like crazy. beware the boost control tho. ive heard they max otu at around 12-12.5. and w/ an exhaust he could possibly take you. i hate n2o, but put a bottle on your car and youll take him.



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