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Old 01-30-2005, 10:20 PM
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I was wondering if anyone knows how a Stock F-Bod could run with a 2003/2004 GTO??

Theres not many of them sround here so i can never se how fast they are

If anyone has raced 'em, how did you do?
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Really?? No one knows??
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They're a couple hundred pounds heavier than we are so they're a few ticks slower through the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by ls1fbod
I was wondering if anyone knows how a Stock F-Bod could run with a 2003/2004 GTO??
There was no 2003 GTO.

Stock 2004's run anywhere from 13.3 - 14.3 depending on driver skill & track from the ones I've personally seen run + owners posting their times on LS1GTO.com.

Originally Posted by ls1fbod
If anyone has raced 'em, how did you do?
I've raced them at the track plenty of times, and none of them have ever hit 13.3 unless heavily modded.
I even ran against one with a Magancharger that only ran low 13's @ 104 - 105 mph.

The motor has the hp/tq obviously, but the GTO is heavy (3725 lbs without driver) & uses small tires out back with IRS.
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The '05 GTO is coming with the LS2, and making 400hp and roughly the amount of torque. They are predicting 4.6 0-60...But I doubt that due to it's heavy weight, unless they have fixed that as well.
As for small wheels I believe they come with 18's stock.(Dont hold me to that)

have a good one
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Originally Posted by 00TAProject
As for small wheels I believe they come with 18's stock.(Dont hold me to that)
The '04's come with 245/45ZR17 size tires (17" wheels obviously).

They seem small to me since Mach 1's get the same tires from the factory & they're not up to the task of putting ~330 (crank) hp to the ground, let alone 350 hp.

The '05's have the same tires currently, but a 235 tire/18" wheel option is supposedly coming in a few months...
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Dont underestimate a goat if the driver knows what he's doing...
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Originally Posted by ls1fbod
I was wondering if anyone knows how a Stock F-Bod could run with a 2003/2004 GTO??

Theres not many of them sround here so i can never se how fast they are

If anyone has raced 'em, how did you do?
04' Goat and LS1 F-body have the same engine and same power. the goat is heavier, and thus a bit slower, everything else being equal.
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The stock 04's at the track last fall where hitting mid-low 13's at 101-104 mph. A comparable LS1 Fbody M6 usually traps the same but at 105-109 mph. A stock Fbody will pull a stock GTO due to weight.
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
04' Goat and LS1 F-body have the same engine and same power. the goat is heavier, and thus a bit slower, everything else being equal.
The M6 gto's have better gearing than the M6 f body's. The advantage is canceled by the added weight, but it does help to narrow the gap.
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It's a driver's race. I ran a T/A LS1 A4 this past Sat. night in my 04 GTO M6. He stayed right next to me until 80 when he shifted to 3rd and I still had some left in 3rd. We ran up to 105 and then he let off, and my rear bumper was about 3 feet out ahead of his front bumper.
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I have raced a 01 WS6 6-speed and a 02 camaro ss auto. (both cars had exhaust) I raced the WS6 from a 50 roll and I was beating him by about 2 feet to 120. The ss beat me by about a car, from a 30 roll to 70. Everyone has this misconception of the GTO's being slow, but stock for stock they are about even with a F-body because the GTO has the Z06 6-speed, which has much better gearing than a T-56.
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the 1/4 god himself (evan smith) ran a best of i believe 13.5 @ 105 in one.....
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i ran a 13.4 to a guys 13.7 a few times in a row.
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Originally Posted by Angus66
The '04's come with 245/45ZR17 size tires (17" wheels obviously).

They seem small to me since Mach 1's get the same tires from the factory & they're not up to the task of putting ~330 (crank) hp to the ground, let alone 350 hp.

The '05's have the same tires currently, but a 235 tire/18" wheel option is supposedly coming in a few months...
Smaller width and taller height won't help you accelerate faster, just look better (maybe).
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they weigh soo much, why??? You wouldn't guess it
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From what Ive read here and ls1gto, Id agree w/ what most are saying here. At the track, anywhere from low 13s to 14 in the 1/4, probly a tick slower than a LS1 fbody due to weight. Most seem to be mid 13s stock. On the street, itd be a drivers race stock vs stock.
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Iv run an auto GTO on the street from 20-130 and owned him the whole way. i should be able to do mid to high 12s if i can hook.

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Stock A4 GTO = slooooow....talk about TM issues.
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Originally Posted by ls1fbod
they weigh soo much, why??? You wouldn't guess it
Well they have side airbags and full size seats in the back. That would add some weight I think. Don't know what else they have that would make them heavier.



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