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Old 03-13-2005, 02:38 AM
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My G/F's brother just traded in his '96 Mustang GT Auto. for a 2001 Mustang Cobra vert. I see that they are rated at 320 hp and 316 tq and run 1/4 mile times around 13.5 (mag times)
Now I am pretty sure that with that time and those numbers the cobras in '01 are not S/C so it is basically a DOHC(?) motor.

How would that compare to a Stock A4 LS1 F-body w/ all the features?
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My Stock A4 ran 13.5. I think it would be close, buit the LS1 will get the win.
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I ran into an 01 Vert M5 when my Z28 had only a Catback. From a roll. I was just barely pulling on it. I would think that it would not be to much of a challenge for an LS1.
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ull win off the line stock if u can drive, ull win from a roll if she is auto, prlly if it was a stick too,(no offense, women are usually less agressive when driving/shifting).
the cobra is okay stock, but u cant get much more out of it. it also has no forged internals , so dropping an eaton from ebay (which would be super cheap, like 400-500$) is not really gonna get much more cuz u cant push it like the terminators.
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drivers race
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Stock for stock. You will rip its doors off from a roll and show it your buisness end from a dig. A stock pre-03 cobra is literally bringing to little to the table to play with a stock f-body.
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Originally Posted by deetsnai
ull win from a roll if she is auto, prlly if it was a stick too
there are no auto cobras. never have been. they are all stick.
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i posted a kill i had a few weeks ago against a 01, im an auto convetible with catback and intake. From like 35-90 i put 2 cars on one, it was a stick 2.
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Stock for stock it should be a little closer than people may think. If the cobra is a stick and you have an auto you will probably win but it should be within a car( If he can drive the stick)
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Originally Posted by firechicken2k
there are no auto cobras. never have been. they are all stick.
Actually, there have been a few from the factory...only 3 I think. I don't remember the circumstances. I'm not even sure if they were production vehicles. You're right though...all are manual tranny cars.
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Originally Posted by Shoulder Shaker
Stock for stock it should be a little closer than people may think.
I agree. The LS1 will pull out the W though.
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Here is an old MT article of the 01 Cobra vs 02 SS

http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Cobra...SS_Article.htm

Its just a reference so for all of you "Magazine Articles suck" *****,
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Back when the '01 Cobra's first came out MM&FF put one into the LOW 13's @ 105ish. This would be a drivers race.
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
Back when the '01 Cobra's first came out MM&FF put one into the LOW 13's @ 105ish. This would be a drivers race.
MM&ff ( evan smith ) got a bone stock 98 z28 12.8x and he got a 02 ss to go 12.9 if hot weather. hell I have the article here somewhere.Both the z and the ss were bone stock on street tires.
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Originally Posted by Billnz28
MM&ff ( evan smith ) got a bone stock 98 z28 12.8x and he got a 02 ss to go 12.9 if hot weather. hell I have the article here somewhere.Both the z and the ss were bone stock on street tires.
I am aware of that. The man can drive like no other. He is able to make a car perform like it should.
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Did you guys all miss that the Cobra is a vert and the f-body is not?
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If your an A4 (especially without a stall) then don't underestimate that Cobra from a roll. If he drops it down to the appropriate gear, you'll definately have your hands full. Good luck!!!
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Originally Posted by Velocity
Did you guys all miss that the Cobra is a vert and the f-body is not?
Yep, he's gotta deal with the extra weight of the vert
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putting my 2 sense in............4.6's have nothing in the lower rpm's, if his is a stick, catch him at a complete stop, and he'll never catch up

but i agree---you have to know how to drive ur car



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