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Old 06-24-2005, 01:22 AM
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Default Supercharged SS vs 03-04 Cobra

Just out of curiosity, which one will win on a 1/4 mile race...?
Im just wondering because the cobras got a supercharger on it and i just want to know what a Ls1 can do against the 03-04 "TERMINATOR" if it has a supercharger.

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You have made a HUGE hypothetcal question. Just saying superchanged SS is VERY vauge(sp). If you mean a stock motored LS1 witha super vs a stock 03-04 cobra, the SS would win 10 out of 10 times. Of coarse this si goin off the idea that you are pushing 6 or more psi out of the super on the SS. That will pout you ate 400 hp+ and plenty to beat a stock cobra. Now if he has work done, anything really, like pullies exhaust intake filter adn tune it will be tough to keep up wioth that on a stock motored SS. I make 531 hp on 10 psi in my SS with a turbo and that will beat 9 out of 10 stock supercharger cobras. If he is sprayin all bets are of but the supercharger is a big limiter on those for over 500 rwhp. Once they put hte kenny bell blower on it then they can make a shitload of hp on the stock motor. I believer they have quite a few 9 second stock motor cobras now. They got a much bigger blower and all the other shti to feed it fuel. Hope this helps man.


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Yep, you just opened up a can of worms (super sized edition). Do a search on this subject in this forum and you'll find some info. If I remember correctly, there was a thread on this very same subject a while back. The subject seems to keep coming up.
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a full bolt-on ls1 can be a hand full for a stock 03/04,
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I forgot to mention stock motor on a the ls1 with just the s/c and stock 03-04 cobra.
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Should be a easy kill. You could even just slap a supecharger onj and not do anyhign else but a little tune and beat them badly. Injectors adn pump are up to the task of 450 hp. Hope this helps man



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Originally Posted by LetMeBurnU
I forgot to mention stock motor on a the ls1 with just the s/c and stock 03-04 cobra.
like they said the ls1 would win 9 out 0f 10 times
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yep
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gotta figure, what would 8psi do to an LS1 with an a/f ratio of 10.1 across the dyno....
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Originally Posted by 03BlackSVT
gotta figure, what would 8psi do to an LS1 with an a/f ratio of 10.1 across the dyno....
Let's also compare apples to apples. The LS1 would have to have a Eaton blower on it making 8psi and the A/F up top would have to tank hard. No centrifugals...

The advantage is clearly given to the bigger cube motor.
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the ls1 would win..
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Originally Posted by BuBbABFP
the ls1 would win..
The LS1 would make more power. A driver wins a race, not a car.
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Put a roots blower on an LS1 and the LS1 will win, bigger cubes and even more low end torque. But as far as modding the motors goes its an enirely different story. If I am not mistaken the 03-04 snake motors are forged, so in turn you could take a stock internal engine put a twin screw or KB blower and boost the **** out of it with some spray with a full exhaust CAI and tuning and have a 600-700 hp car. With an LS1 you would need to buy an all new forged block to run any high amount of boost through it.
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Originally Posted by unit213
The LS1 would make more power. A driver wins a race, not a car.
LMFAO JUST ****n admit that the ls1 is faster
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
LMFAO JUST ****n admit that the ls1 is faster
Yeah, normally I agree with Unit but that was a lame answer.
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
LMFAO JUST ****n admit that the ls1 is faster
Do I know you? No? Good.

Power doesn't always equal quicker. Go check out the Supra forums for a thousand examples.

There's nothing to admit. I already said the LS1 clearly has the advantage and will make more power.
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Originally Posted by unit213
The LS1 would make more power. A driver wins a race, not a car.
no he's completely right. and not just because he drives a cobra, well I mean to say I don't think he's saying that to defend the cobra by any means. when i had my ls1 BRAND NEW, I got spanked by a ricer, wont say what kind of car or who, but I was. because I was cocky, and brand new to my car's capabilities. the driver is the most important factor. yes most likely the LS1 would win, but you don't know till you race.

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Originally Posted by Diolar Magnum
well I mean to say I don't think he's saying that to defend the cobra by any means.
You got it Brad.

There's no doubt that the LS1 will make more power with a roots blower at 8psi.

I once raced a fox 'stang that ran a 12.0 at 103mph. Understand what I'm saying?
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
LMFAO JUST ****n admit that the ls1 is faster
Originally Posted by unit213
The advantage is clearly given to the bigger cube motor.
Originally Posted by unit213
There's no doubt that the LS1 will make more power with a roots blower at 8psi.
Originally Posted by unit213
The LS1 would make more power.
He admitted the LS1 would make more power, re-read the posts. No need to be an jerkoff about ****, considering the vehicle you drive, you wouldn't want us to open up a can on you.
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Originally Posted by 99SS-T
I make 531 hp on 10 psi in my SS with a turbo and that will beat 9 out of 10 stock supercharger cobras.
9 out of 10??
I'd love to see that 10th ungodly factory freak STOCK cobra that will be faster than your 531hp SS. You would easily destroy any and every STOCK Cobra and should handily beat all of the ones with the usual bolt-on mods too. The ones with the ported blowers + all bolt-on's will start to be competitive but not until you get to the ones with a KB or NOS will you have to worry.

Just talking about the actual cars here, not the drivers.



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