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Old 08-14-2005, 08:55 AM
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I raced my Supra (making about 450 rwhp) last night against an Ls1 SS with only cat back and drag radials (guessing 320 rwhp?)

Results were not pretty.. the SS KILLED me!! Just goes to show ya that LSx motors are still the KING!
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I love how some people focus on peak numbers all the time. Area under the curve is so much more important.

Was this race from a dig or from a roll?
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yeah I would like to get better numbers down low. But I guess I will have to deal with it till I get a motor built. Its nice to be able to get power right away and not have to wait for the peak hp.
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Kind of like this shirt I saw...
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
Kind of like this shirt I saw...


<takes a deep breath>

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a friend of mine has a supra and it made 809 rwhp. then he ran 13.2 @ 120 on mt dr's.
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Originally Posted by gen 3 bu
a friend of mine has a supra and it made 809 rwhp. then he ran 13.2 @ 120 on mt dr's.
That don't make sense. A friend of mine had a supra that made 800rwhp+ and he was trapping over 140mph in street trim. 120mph in a Supra can be had with the stock Turbos giving the right supporting mods.
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that shirt is hilarous, where do i get one?
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That shirt is pretty funny!!
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Somebody posted that shirt on Motown Muscle a while back and I saved it. I was going to change it to say STS, but it looks like they are actually getting some good times with those kits now...

There is a Supra running at Milan in the low 140's in a monthly Friday night event. It was a turd at the beginning of the season, but he has been tuninig the suspension all summer, and now it is the car to beat. Of course, the imports can run slicks, while the domestics can only run DR's, so he has a bit of an advantage.

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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
That don't make sense. A friend of mine had a supra that made 800rwhp+ and he was trapping over 140mph in street trim. 120mph in a Supra can be had with the stock Turbos giving the right supporting mods.
I agree. A friend of mine was trapping 119-120 on slicks last winter. And that was on the stock turbos boosting around 21psi. From a dig i can see the ls1 taking the supra. But from a roll i can't see it happening. Power under the curve doesn't mean all that much when you have the low end power twin turbos make and you race from 4000-7000 ish RPM.
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did u race on a track or on the street? from a roll or a dig? If at the track what were the 60, et and mph?
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Originally Posted by gen 3 bu
a friend of mine has a supra and it made 809 rwhp. then he ran 13.2 @ 120 on mt dr's.
Unless he's trying to drive a 6-speed car with one arm and one leg I vote for "he sucks at life" or "you just made that up"
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Originally Posted by eviltwins
Unless he's trying to drive a 6-speed car with one arm and one leg I vote for "he sucks at life" or "you just made that up"
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Originally Posted by Missz06
I raced my Supra (making about 450 rwhp) last night against an Ls1 SS with only cat back and drag radials (guessing 320 rwhp?)

Results were not pretty.. the SS KILLED me!! Just goes to show ya that LSx motors are still the KING!
Sorry, but if you really do own a Supra and make 450 rwhp you must really SUCK as a driver... I raced dozens of LS1's back in 97, the auto's were no contest at all and most of the six speeds that I raced were no real contest. I races dozens of the LS1 SS' back in 98 when my car was BONE STOCK and I was pretty much dead even. I would always lose to my friend in his 1998 C5 six speed Corvette, but not by much.
A 450 rwhp Supra should easily trap 120 - 122 mph. There is no possible way an LS1 with ONLY an exhaust and drag radials should pull on a car that traps over 120 mph, even if the Supra owner was a terible driver and was on shitty street tires. I raced a LS1 that was on the bottle and still pulled on him back when I was on the stock twins and I know for a fact that I had less than 425 rwhp.
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I have had local Supra acquaintances run high 11's and low 12's with BPU and stock turbos. 11.8@117 comes to mind. And this was in 2000.
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ummm dont mean to be an *** but back in 97 the only ls1's were corvettes and from the sound of it you seem like you raced more than vettes.....F bodys were LT1's that year....
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
ummm dont mean to be an *** but back in 97 the only ls1's were corvettes and from the sound of it you seem like you raced more than vettes.....F bodys were LT1's that year....
Yeah i've never had a single problem with stock supras when i was stock. The original story still doesn't add up.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
ummm dont mean to be an *** but back in 97 the only ls1's were corvettes and from the sound of it you seem like you raced more than vettes.....F bodys were LT1's that year....

Long time ago...
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im jsut saying that racing a stock LT1 say camaro and say a 2000 LS1 camaro are 2 different worlds...thats all.i wouldnt mind seeing a vid or 2



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