Upcoming races. Knowledgable Mustang info wanted.
08-29-2005, 07:21 PM
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Upcoming races. Knowledgable Mustang info wanted. So heres the scenario. I have two mustang buds. One with a stock 01 Cobra, and one with a 00 GT with the following mods:
Longtube headers
Off road X pipe
Flowmaster mufflers
Accufab ported TB
K&N CAI
Granatelli Intake Plenum
ASP underdrive pulleys
Both cars are manuals, street tires, and both have the 3.27s. These two will be going up against eachother somewhere around the weekend of the 9th, 10th, 11th. Given equal drivers which car should prevail? I have tried to conservatively estimate flywheel hp on the GT with the mods for comparison to the 320 that the Cobra is rated at.
00 GT stock 260 hp at the flywheel
Full exhaust 30
CAI 10
Ported TB 7
pullies 5
intake plenum 5
Total 317 at the flywheel. What do you guys think? I believe it should be a great race. When this goes down I'll be sure to post up the results. Thanks fellas
Longtube headers
Off road X pipe
Flowmaster mufflers
Accufab ported TB
K&N CAI
Granatelli Intake Plenum
ASP underdrive pulleys
Both cars are manuals, street tires, and both have the 3.27s. These two will be going up against eachother somewhere around the weekend of the 9th, 10th, 11th. Given equal drivers which car should prevail? I have tried to conservatively estimate flywheel hp on the GT with the mods for comparison to the 320 that the Cobra is rated at.
00 GT stock 260 hp at the flywheel
Full exhaust 30
CAI 10
Ported TB 7
pullies 5
intake plenum 5
Total 317 at the flywheel. What do you guys think? I believe it should be a great race. When this goes down I'll be sure to post up the results. Thanks fellas
08-29-2005, 07:50 PM
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CObra is probally making close to the 280 or so rwhp.
The gt 240~250 rwhp max..
CAI are worthless so thats out.
It really depends.The gt has better bottomend.But with a good driver the cobra can make it up on the other end.
But again i say its a drivers race.Only because i know n/a ,i killed a few cobras.
The gt 240~250 rwhp max..
CAI are worthless so thats out.
It really depends.The gt has better bottomend.But with a good driver the cobra can make it up on the other end.
But again i say its a drivers race.Only because i know n/a ,i killed a few cobras.
08-29-2005, 08:07 PM
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Well I give the edge in the driver dept to the GT owner. Both of these fellas are my friends, but the guy in the GT has really been getting the hang of racing here lately. We're also planning on hitting the dyno up as well, so we'll see what the real world numbers are too. Thanks for the input.
08-29-2005, 09:11 PM
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The GT will take the cobra out of the hole due to more torque and a solid axle(if the driver can drive). the Cobra should make it up around top of 2nd gear into 3rd gear.
08-29-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SSilverSSurfer
i think the gt should win....anyhthing other than an 03 cobra is trash to me...sorry if i offended anyone...lol
I really dont like catfish either
08-30-2005, 08:30 AM
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Its hard to tell, the Cobra has the power advantage the GT has the weight advantage and its much better outta the hole. Thos Cobras really need a Gear to get any lowend performance outta them, a gear will put them in there powerband. I would have to go with the GT also if he has more xperiance drag racing.
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08-30-2005, 09:14 AM
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My friend has a 00 GT with the exact same mods..but shorties. Long tubes don't help them much like fbody's. He ran a best of 13.79 being a good driver. I think the Cobra will win given equal drivers.
08-30-2005, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
My friend has a 00 GT with the exact same mods..but shorties. Long tubes don't help them much like fbody's. He ran a best of 13.79 being a good driver. I think the Cobra will win given equal drivers.
08-30-2005, 10:16 AM
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I said they don't help on Mustangs like they do on fbody's. I am correct with that statement. He doesn't have many mods or forced induction like you that it would benefit from. Shorties help great on a 00 GT with basic bolt ons, i know this from experience
Edit: They may be mids, I forgot what he has exactly. Either way, they're not longtubes for sure. I got on him about it when he didn't get long tubes, and he has the research (proof) that they don't put down better numbers
Edit: They may be mids, I forgot what he has exactly. Either way, they're not longtubes for sure. I got on him about it when he didn't get long tubes, and he has the research (proof) that they don't put down better numbers
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08-30-2005, 10:59 AM
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Like i said, it was probably the mids. They put down better numbers on a near-stock GT, just like that guy's one. Go over to stangsource and they'll show you the dynos that prove it. Of course once you start doing good mods to is, longtubes are better.
08-30-2005, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
My friend has a 00 GT with the exact same mods..but shorties. Long tubes don't help them much like fbody's. He ran a best of 13.79 being a good driver. I think the Cobra will win given equal drivers.
With that being said I pulled a 1.9xx 60ft, and ran 14.0@ around 99mph. This was in hot humid weather. This car is stout. Caliper is fixed now and it's a whole new animal. I figured 13.8s easy 1st pass with a decent 60ft. Time will tell..... 
08-30-2005, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
Shorties don't help at all on the mustang and your WAY off if you think long tubes don't
When it comes to exhaust it really depends on the rest of the car and its setup.Ever car reacts different to each mod.As far as weight..The only main difference is the IRS vs solid.The wieght difference is only 80 pounds,i know i got a IRS in my gt now.
This weight difference can be made up or lost with just a few tweaks.Hell just taking the pass seat out and losing the wing is worth almost 65 pounds.Plus no wing will net a good 1~2 mph on the top end.
But hey what do i know..
08-30-2005, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by blackfang
Most Longtubes and a good mid pipe will net 20-35 rwhp.
Not on a gt.Its not gonna happen.Maybe 20 going from evrything stock to longtubes and a tune..
Funny i only netted 13rwhp with my longtubes(n/a) and ive seen dyno proof where others have netted ZERO from longtubes.
08-31-2005, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by white99gt
Not on a gt.Its not gonna happen.Maybe 20 going from evrything stock to longtubes and a tune..
Funny i only netted 13rwhp with my longtubes(n/a) and ive seen dyno proof where others have netted ZERO from longtubes.
Funny i only netted 13rwhp with my longtubes(n/a) and ive seen dyno proof where others have netted ZERO from longtubes.
