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Old 09-08-2005, 12:16 AM
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this is my question. this is up to anyone wether mustang lover or fbody lover. stock to stock how bad will a ls1 camaro beat a stock foxbody 5.0 mustnag. the reason i ask is i just got one and i have a guy that is being a real a**hole and saying that stock to stock he will beat me. now i know when i had my lt1 i beat him by 2-3 cars....so how bad will the ls1 beat him
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you have ls1 and he has a fox body? Can I say bus lenghts??? Make him put some money on the race and he'll shut up!
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Let me see if I can find the post on Ls1.com where people were telling me foxes ran 12.9 out of the box. Quite a funny posting thread

If I still had a site id show you a video of me chasing two foxes "modded" down the street, slowing down, catching up, slowing down, catching up.... just toying with their emotions. They were 92' notches also.. the "fast" ones.
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Spot him a few cars for some cash and then take his money. Foxes aren't known for their deadly stock potential but rather their love for mods. He's living in a dream world and you should bring him back to earth....after you take his money.
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Stock!? He'll need binoculars to read your license plate.
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Yeah, you could take him by a longshot. Heck I walked all over my buddys fox body in my stock LT1 with K&N and 4.11s. His 1992 Mustang has a 302 with CAI, Bigger TB, Injectors, GT-40 Intake, GT-40 Heads, Streetable Cam (One of the Ford Racing ones, I can't remember which one, nothing too big), and a Ford Racing bottom end (stock, haha). He is also running a T-5 with I think a King Cobra Clutch with a B&M Short Throw Shifter. He too has 4.11s. Exhaust is Shorty headers with an X-pipe and dual Flowmaster 50 series. Hes got like $5000 in this car (what a waste!) They were talking so much crap and then one night they told me to take my car out so they could beat up on it, and boy were they surprised. They even switched drivers and still couldnt hang. BTW, this car probably doesnt run quite as good as it should, I think it needs a good tune, but thats just me. But when people talk smack and get beat, they shouldnt have excuses.

Bottomline: YOU WILL KILL THE MUSTANG!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 99midnightZ
this is my question. this is up to anyone wether mustang lover or fbody lover. stock to stock how bad will a ls1 camaro beat a stock foxbody 5.0 mustnag. the reason i ask is i just got one and i have a guy that is being a real a**hole and saying that stock to stock he will beat me. now i know when i had my lt1 i beat him by 2-3 cars....so how bad will the ls1 beat him
not that it would affect the outcome, but what year 5.0?

As the Fox platform was in use upto 2004 calling it a Fox 5.0 doesn't narrow it down much. I mean some had as much as 134bhp STOCK.

However a latter one with a few mods and well dirven can be pretty quick. low 13's or even 12.9's are possible with bolt ons, so stop light to stop light could be close.

If it really is stock then it shouldn't even be a race, just a for gone conclusion.
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Originally Posted by 97Z28LT1
Yeah, you could take him by a longshot. Heck I walked all over my buddys fox body in my stock LT1 with K&N and 4.11s. His 1992 Mustang has a 302 with CAI, Bigger TB, Injectors, GT-40 Intake, GT-40 Heads, Streetable Cam (One of the Ford Racing ones, I can't remember which one, nothing too big), and a Ford Racing bottom end (stock, haha). He is also running a T-5 with I think a King Cobra Clutch with a B&M Short Throw Shifter. He too has 4.11s. Exhaust is Shorty headers with an X-pipe and dual Flowmaster 50 series. Hes got like $5000 in this car (what a waste!) They were talking so much crap and then one night they told me to take my car out so they could beat up on it, and boy were they surprised. They even switched drivers and still couldnt hang. BTW, this car probably doesnt run quite as good as it should, I think it needs a good tune, but thats just me. But when people talk smack and get beat, they shouldnt have excuses.

Bottomline: YOU WILL KILL THE MUSTANG!!!!!
Must have been a shitty car or shitty driver. My old 89 with nothing more than 3.55 gears and slicks went 8.52 in the 1/8 mile, with 175,000 miles on it. with a intake and gears it went low 8.teens. I think the best time with only gears and slicks in the qtr was a 13.26. I thought that was decent for a high mileage car. I know my buddy had some GT40 heads and all like you were mentioning on your buddy's car.....his car went some 7.0s in the 1/8 mile.
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Stock for Stock 0-50 will have you 2-3 cars ahead and after that you will kick the crap out of him. This is based on my 95 LT1 vs. my friends gears/CAI/Pully/Exhaust 5.0 5M and my 95 LT1 vs. a 99+ LS1 A4 w/ exhaust/tune. 0-50 you wont MURDER him, but the winner will be clear, as for 50+ HE would be an idiot for wasting the gas. BTW, not that anyone cares, and this is off topic, but im getting 20 mpg at 65-70 mph on the freeway with mods in sig. is that normal for a fox with my mods? (dont mean to hi-jack thread, just thought a few fox ppl. might actually look at this one...)
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Stock for Stock 0-50 will have you 2-3 cars ahead and after that you will kick the crap out of him. This is based on my 95 LT1 vs. my friends gears/CAI/Pully/Exhaust 5.0 5M and my 95 LT1 vs. a 99+ LS1 A4 w/ exhaust/tune. 0-50 you wont MURDER him, but the winner will be clear, as for 50+ HE would be an idiot for wasting the gas. BTW, not that anyone cares, and this is off topic, but im getting 20 mpg at 65-70 mph on the freeway with mods in sig. is that normal for a fox with my mods? (dont mean to hi-jack thread, just thought a few fox ppl. might actually look at this one...)
21 mpg with my old GT and similar mods.
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You won't beat him bone stock thats for sure. I own a 93 z/ a4 ,and a 90 ford coupe. Best run with the coupe was 13.80 with the 373's and h pipe. The z with just a 58mm ran 13.53 . Had to add long tube headers pro m mass air sensor 65mm t/b and ran a 13.30 inthe coupe.Drag radials will help you out alot.
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well here are the results......

yea it was bus lengths. i called him after u posted the thread and told him i would put 100 down if he was game. he didnt want to do money but he did race. now i have a 99 z28 and he has a 92 5.0 foxbody. mine is stock. he has exhaust, headers, intake, and other randon shyt. so anyways we got lined up and i told him to go when he felt like it and i would go. it was over at that point. i pulled away so hard he didnt know what happened. he was trying to say he didnt hook up and other shyt but i gave him a 1/2 a car head start. so thanks everyone for your help!

1 more quick question what cars do we need to watch out for in the ls1's ?
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Originally Posted by 99midnightZ
1 more quick question what cars do we need to watch out for in the ls1's ?
nice one.

well the simple answer has to be 'anything faster'.

There really is no clear divide, plus as the trend is to mod a car there's plenty out there that can and will be quicker.
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Originally Posted by 99midnightZ
well here are the results......

yea it was bus lengths. i called him after u posted the thread and told him i would put 100 down if he was game. he didnt want to do money but he did race. now i have a 99 z28 and he has a 92 5.0 foxbody. mine is stock. he has exhaust, headers, intake, and other randon shyt. so anyways we got lined up and i told him to go when he felt like it and i would go. it was over at that point. i pulled away so hard he didnt know what happened. he was trying to say he didnt hook up and other shyt but i gave him a 1/2 a car head start. so thanks everyone for your help!

1 more quick question what cars do we need to watch out for in the ls1's ?
I cant understand why his car wont go any better. With headers, int, and exhaust, he should be a decent runner, esp if he has gears. I guess hes just not a driver at all. I have raced several....and they never pull on me like that. I have a AOD junky *** daily driver Gt that runs decent enough to keep up.
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stock gears. and his is an auto. it wasnt even a race
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Stock gears and an auto??? ****! He should have known better. Although with 3.27 gears, and just CAI, my AOD went 9.08. But I figure a stock LS1 can beat that with a good driver.
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yea i can drive pretty well. it wasnt even a race, although i cant take anything away from foxbodies they can be real fast
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
nice one.

well the simple answer has to be 'anything faster'.

There really is no clear divide, plus as the trend is to mod a car there's plenty out there that can and will be quicker.
Exactly.

With todays technology ,its hard to say what will be fast and what wont..
Best bet is build it and hope its built enough..
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You would have a better run with alot of ricers out there,stock foxbody most likely has some hard miles on it. It takes a decent H/C/I 5.0 to run with a stock ls1.
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Originally Posted by fast89stang
Must have been a shitty car or shitty driver. My old 89 with nothing more than 3.55 gears and slicks went 8.52 in the 1/8 mile, with 175,000 miles on it. with a intake and gears it went low 8.teens. I think the best time with only gears and slicks in the qtr was a 13.26. I thought that was decent for a high mileage car. I know my buddy had some GT40 heads and all like you were mentioning on your buddy's car.....his car went some 7.0s in the 1/8 mile.
They switched drivers and still the same outcome. I know his car dont run as good as it should. I think it still needs a good tune.


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