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Question** Z28 vs Mach 1

Old 09-10-2005, 09:04 PM
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Hey guys, i have a guy with a mach 1, only mod is a catback, he wants to run my Z hes sayin my car is not contest but i beg to differ, i should be able to beat him right, my mods are in sig, thanks
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new mach 1 that is
Old 09-10-2005, 09:14 PM
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I drove a Mach 1 for about 2 years... you will beat him pretty easily unless he has more than what he's telling you.
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Drivers race with edge to Z28. If he has an auto and he isn't 'hiding' any mods, he shouldn't be a problem, unless you mess up the launch. If he has a manual you should still edge him out but it will be closer. Or take him from a roll to eliminate the risk of spinning or any advantage he might get from swapping to some really sticky tires. Auto vs. Manual, you should win at least 3 out of 5. Auto to auto, you shouldn't have a problem.

As far as it being 'no contest', he is basing his cars performance on it's stripe, shaker hood, and name. Clue less or arrogant, teach him a lesson. Even if you lose, it should be too close for him to keep saying 'no contest'.
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if all he has is a catback he will get smoked badly by you

mach 1's are all slow P.O.S.'s just kidding
Old 09-10-2005, 10:20 PM
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I'm 3-0 vs. the mighty LS1. Do not take it as a given that you'll win. The auto. shouldn't be a problem for you but the 5-speed is a different animal. Good luck.
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Looks to me like you both only have cat-backs for power mods, with the exception of some LS1 edit tuning for you. He's way too confident that he'll win though, so he's either clueless or maybe has something done he hasn't told you about.

Should be a driver's race if he's a manual trans car.

Good luck!
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My buddy with a full exhaust and BFG drag radials ran 13.2@ 107 in his Mach not bad for only those mods. Should be a pretty good race.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
My buddy with a full exhaust and BFG drag radials ran 13.2@ 107 in his Mach not bad for only those mods. Should be a pretty good race.
Beautiful Z06 in sig!
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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
Beautiful Z06 in sig!
Yeah not bad for a girls car huh?
Old 09-11-2005, 10:54 AM
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When I had my 02' mustang gt, I had 3.73's, CAI, cat back, pullies, chip, upper and lower rear control arms, and springs. I used to be dead even with mach ones in the 1/8, and i was running 9.0's. However they did trap higher.
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If he has a M5, it should be a driver's race.
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Race him and let us know how it goes... It seems like everytime one of these theads pop up know one ever tells the out come.. I'm starting to wonder if that is because they loss and don't want to tell anyone.. I think it should be a close race.. If your going from a dig I'll give the advantage to the Mach since they do get out of the hole alot better then the Z, but from a low mph roll its anyones race..
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i just found out his car is stock besides a air filter, and its a auto also. I should be abale to take him, he keeps telling me that he makes 305 to the wheels stock, but he doesnt know that thats just at the motor....lol when i race him ill let you know the results
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A bone stock M5 Mach 1 will dyno at about 265 rwhp. GIve him 10 for the cat-back to be nice and he has 275 rwhp. If he is an auto, its less, and the auto SUCKS (Yes, i drive a ford, but will be the first to say the AODE and AOD and all their derivatives were mostly junk) My vote goes to the Z if its auto, if he is 5-speed my vote goes to the driver b/c he has better gearing (slightly) hand his 1-2 shift drops less rpm than the 4L60E 1-2 shift does. He has 3.55's and you have 3.42's. My vote goes to whomever gets traction if he is a 5M. (unless you draw this thing out to 120 or something, but the 4V's pull decent up high...).
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You'll take him, as long as you dont screw it up. Show him whats up.
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Originally Posted by MagikMan
When I had my 02' mustang gt, I had 3.73's, CAI, cat back, pullies, chip, upper and lower rear control arms, and springs. I used to be dead even with mach ones in the 1/8, and i was running 9.0's. However they did trap higher.
When my car was un-modded, I only ran as slow as 9.0's in the 1/8th when I messed-up launching.

I dug-up some of my old time slips from when my Mach was stock & I'd only had it a few weeks. This was completely stock down to the paper air filter, stock tires & stock weight:



As you can see, my 60' times pretty much blew on these runs & I was at 9.0X or faster in the 1/8th. This was my 1st time running the Mach so I was learning what it liked to be launched at.

Later that same day, I found a better launch technique & shift rpm:



Simply getting a decent 60' time put me .3+ faster in the 1/8th than earlier in the day. It was still 80+ degrees out with high humidity too.

The second two slips weren't anything special though - I ran faster in the 1/8th & 1/4 a few days later with different shift-points only....

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Originally Posted by Stanger88
A bone stock M5 Mach 1 will dyno at about 265 rwhp. GIve him 10 for the cat-back to be nice and he has 275 rwhp.
I guess mine must be a FACTORY FREAK then , since I dynoed ~ 282 rwhp completely stock:



Simply adding a drop-in K&N put me at ~ 287 rwhp, and a cat-back & 4.30 gears (which rob a little power on the dyno) and I was at ~ 298 rwhp:

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Originally Posted by Angus66
When my car was un-modded, I only ran as slow as 9.0's in the 1/8th when I messed-up launching.

I dug-up some of my old time slips from when my Mach was stock & I'd only had it a few weeks. This was completely stock down to the paper air filter, stock tires & stock weight:

As you can see, my 60' times pretty much blew on these runs & I was at 90 mph or faster in the 1/8th. This was my 1st time running the Mach so I was learning what it liked to be launched at.
Those are interesting time slips you have...what are the best 60' a Mach 1 gets with Nittos? Also I think you meant 80mph or faster in the 1/8th right??
Good stock times BTW
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He already said it was an auto., the LS1 is a definite favorite here. Good luck.

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