Ouchburns

Ok, heres the scoop. I was out driving yesterday afternoon because it was a nice day and im sitting at a stop light about 3 cars back from the front, all of a sudden this GTS Viper pulls up behind me. He begins to rev his engine a little and I decide not too. I saw that he had a temporary plate up in his winshield so I figured he just got the car. Im stuck behind traffic so he downshifts and takes off. The chase begins!!! Just so that you all know this is at fairly slow speeds. Several lane changes occur to catch up to him and we end up at the stop lights right down town. There are tons of guys looking at us. I ask the guys what year it is, is it stock etc...He tells me its a 98 GTS with a "racing cam" in it. Right away im suspect of this guys. He tells me he just got the car from Denver Colorado. I believe him of course because of the temporary plate in his winshield as stated above. I dont really believe that he has a "racing cam" in his car though. First of all, who calls it a racing cam? Second of all he goes and tells me that the car has 500hp. Can anyone tell me what the HP/TQ specs are on a 98 GTS? Ok, back to the race! So we both punch it off the lights, I know this because I can hear his wheels chirping as he shifts into second. I power shift into second and Im atleast 2 lenghts ahead of his already, I shift into 3rd and I let off. I was very suprised because I know that he was giving it. Iam just wondering, what gives with that? Look at my mods in my sig, should he have not dusted me?

HOSS

iTrader: (12)

no he should have beat u, new car with rookie driver...kill is a kill...nice one

Camaroz

iTrader: (2)

98 GTS is a low 12 second car, correct? 0-60 was low 4's also.. He should have beat you if he knew how to drive it. Good kill

Heatmaker

It was a kit car... and you actually beat a fiero in disguise.

Ouchburns

Well I guess it was all driver then

BLKWS.6

THe 98 GTS had 400-450hp at the fly as i recall and he should have creamed you. No, i doubt he had a "racing cam" like i do (well...ford racing alphabet cam, lmao). Still, viper is 3300#ish and 400+hp while you are 3600#ish and 375hp. Then again, depends on the size of those 2 guys...anywho...yeah, it should have been kinda close, but not really, you beat the driver, good kill.

Ouchburns

Good to know. It being a 98 and him having just bought it there could have been many other factors that slowed him down, like a clutch slipping, worn tired etc..

oldschoolmuscle

iTrader: (5)

vipers have a hard time hooking up on the street, and most viper guys can't drive there car either.

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Juiced

iTrader: (2)

Viper peak TQ is reallow like 2500 rpm, it's hard to hook them up on the street specially from a low MPH roll.

ScreaminRedZ

iTrader: (3)

Good kill! Those year Vipers usually dyno almost 400 rwhp (rated 450 at the flywheel). Just goes to show you that all the hp in the world won't help you if you can't drive.

RDISADEIFAN

Good kill, I wanted to race one but he was heading in the different direction on a divided highway.He saw me and nailed the gas,and a plume of black smoke came out his pipes.

corvet786c

iTrader: (6)

He probably would have pulled hard on you in the long run.

300bhp/ton

I know when people claim 'racing this' and 'STAGE 2 that' it makes you kinda think ummm??

But if he did have a cam swap would you have been any the wiser if he spouted out the stats of it?

I think probably not.

Nice kill none the less.

Ouchburns

I was just trying to say, who calls it a racing cam? I mean when people say that it makes me suspect to the fact that they actually have one. Most people would say its cammed. It is possible that he had a cam but it was just me trying to read the situation. Thanks for the replies though

300bhp/ton

I totally agree 99% of the time that is probably the correct reaction. It's just difficult to always know. I mean if you pulled up next to me in my TR7 V8 I could tell you the cam specs, or name, or a general description of what it is, but would it really mean much to you or most people really.

Ouchburns

No it wouldnt mean much to me at all if you could tell me the Cam specs but if you said I have a cheaTR cam in the car or a T-Rex or something of that sort I would not be so suspect. To me saying, "Its got a racing cam in it" seems to be a less knowledable statement as to what your car really has done to it, if anything at all.

01ls1lover

iTrader: (18)

I bet he felt stupid after that one.

Ouchburns

I hope it gives him an idea of what ls1 powered cars can do and that just because he has a Viper doesnt mean that hes King $h!t

BLKWS.6

Please help me out, a ton of idiots i know go around spouting "3/4 race cam, half race cam, full race cam" What the hell are these "cams"??? I can understand lift/duration/LSA but this full,half,3/4 business is driving me crazy. As far as my mods, at the stop light I have a hood, new paint, and flowmasters with a massive exhaust leak