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Old 01-23-2006, 10:23 AM
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Mods are in sig and then some. I added on a BG Ram Air and will soon have put on a Fast 90 Intake and NW 90 TB, not sure if it's worth to put on an 85 mm MAF and Lid.

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From what I heard - his SRT 4 can go up to 21 pounds of boost. Its rumored he beats Vipers and other super cars.

I could probably find out more but right know based on this info where do I stand?
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Take him from a dig and you should have him. From a roll its 50/50 at best, kinda leaning towards Neon (I mean SRT4 right?) from a roll, if he has what he claims to have.

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well, this is in the wrong section...but what mods does he have?
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Either race from a dig to 50 (LOL) or from 70-170+ (his won't go that fast LOL)
Other than that, you'll prolly get your *** handed to you, you're pretty stock. If you have people attesting to his quickness, it's prolly true. Skittles are either sick fast or stock slow. NO in-between.
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Originally Posted by Andros
Mods are in sig and then some. I added on a BG Ram Air and will soon have put on a Fast 90 Intake and NW 90 TB, not sure if it's worth to put on an 85 mm MAF and Lid.

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From what I heard - his SRT 4 can go up to 21 pounds of boost. Its rumored he beats Vipers and other super cars.

I could probably find out more but right know based on this info where do I stand?
I thought a new stall converter was 1st on the list of mods with you A4 guys?

Save your money on the intake (especially since you already have an LS6 and TB work), and invest in cam/tune. You will pay only a slight bit more, but these mods are the ones to go with first. Plus you can hit the 400+rwhp mark and be riding a high hog, AND have a mean lope to listen to.

You will not see much gain from the 90/90 with a SI car.

If the rumors are true, you're probably going to need more than a camshaft. A cam + 100 shot should wax him

Edit - Racing from a dig will probably net the best results (besides a 1st gear roll if you can hook), but he probably won't go for that. Racing from 50-55 will force him to use 3rd gear instead of second and give you a bit of an edge, find out where they can no longer use 2nd to start a race and it will help you. Having stock gears, you will be able to bump down to second and have a bit of an advantage.

Whatever you do, don't race from 40. 2nd gear for them is sitting purty at that speed and 2nd gear for you is bog city.
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IF he's got an upgraded turbo, 21psi ~= 400whp; unless it's a Stage 3 turbo, then it's more like ~320whp. If the rumors are true (beats Vipers and other "super" cars) then most likely he's got an upgraded turbo, probably a 50 trim. Your only hope is to run from a dig or slow roll and hope the race is over before he gets traction and catches up.
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Make him do your race, if he says 2nd gear roll tell him to go **** himself. From a dig because if he makes that much power it must be pretty hard for him to actually hook.
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With the mods in my sig-untuned I pulled 4+ cars on a stage2 SRT4 huffing a 75 shot in every gear. The runs were on the interstate from 2nd and 3rd. Same outcome on both runs ending at about 135 mph.

If you don't have a cam and some stuff it would be close, edge to the SRT.
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I'm enjoying this, I'll try and get more info outta my friend Nigel, he always brags about him but never actually sees him race. If I lose I'll have the 90/90 mods put him and rematch him. If I still lose, my nods to him.
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You need to get a converter in that thing if you lose before you put the 90/90 in. You'll spend pretty close to the same amount.
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I already paid for the 90/90, I have about $550 left that's for the tune. I want to stay SI for a while. I don't know much of anything about stall converters to consider it. Like what are the pros and cons to a converter?
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Honestly if he is pushing 21 psi your in trouble. Like someone already said he def has an upgraded turbo, at least a .50 trim, which is good for approx 400 whp. My buddies 04 srt-4 has all the bolt ons, upgraded fuel system, ecu flash, and .50 trim and its a beast. I cant keep up with it, from a dig i hang around longer but from a roll he can slowly walk away from me. Gotta figure too he has less weight and more power so id say with your current mods he will win. get the converter though, pros = pretty much always in your power band and can launch at a higher rpm. Cons = gonna be a little harder on your tranny and your stock 10-bolt rear (if you use sticky tires), over all though its the best mod for an a4.
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Originally Posted by Andros
Mods are in sig and then some. I added on a BG Ram Air and will soon have put on a Fast 90 Intake and NW 90 TB, not sure if it's worth to put on an 85 mm MAF and Lid.

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From what I heard - his SRT 4 can go up to 21 pounds of boost. Its rumored he beats Vipers and other super cars.

I could probably find out more but right know based on this info where do I stand?
have u taken ur car to the track yet?? if ur pushin only 326hp and 338tq, he would only need to have 300 at the wheels to pull u from a roll, so be careful u might be in for a suprise
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Yeah 21 psi, I think you might be in trouble just being a bolt-on car. My brother in law just put on an AGP 50 trim turbo on his, pushing 19 so far. He should be around 400 whp, so he'd give me a good run. Keep in mind they only weigh about 2900-3000 without driver, so he's got a weight advantage too.

From a dig your chances are better, but I still think he'll take the win unless he really blows the launch.
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theres a vid of me in the street racing section racing 2 big turbo SRT's, and i know one of them was a 50 trim....yea, well, theyre fast
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yeah it depends on the size of turbo and supporting mods. guy on i know in texas could out run some vipers and stayed dead even with a 525whp C5, but this was also on a GT40 turbo. Find out what turbo he has. If he has Stage 3 then he must be spraying as well. I mean mine makes 400+ whp on the juice but I am not stupid to think I can whoop everyone.

Plus how do you guys get people to run you I can't get hardly get anyone to run me. Did have a run in with a WS6 I think he was pretty stock since i pulled him pretty easy.
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Oksrt did you forget to mention your upgraded turbo or you want us to believe you made 400rwhp with a 75shot on your stock turbo?
I could maybe see 375 engine on 75 shot on stock turbo.

Its pretty hard to launch an ls1 any v8.A good set of nittos and stall can really perk up and auto and take a big chunk off your quartermile times.
The neon is not likely too hook off the line at all on street tires but on racing tires shouldn't be a big problem.Not as wicked as cars like my awd dsm which can do like 1.6 60fts on street tires.
Definitely the srt 4 can be wicked fast..any car can with big enough turbo.And they are lighter like was said.A good four or five hundred pound weight advantage is significant right there. I wouldn't want to be money from a roll.Even from a dig if you are on street tires with no stall.

I raced buddies sts 95 z28 vert with my 96 z28 vert.
I had stall,3.42s,nittos,minor mods in sig.I got him off the line of course but he quicky reeled me in blew buy me and was gone and he was only on 5psi or so and otherwise bone stock except for the turbo. Course I was only at 325 engine or so and you have more like 400 engine. A 100 shot would be a nice equalizer too.
Or heads and cam..or supercharger or turbo..LOL

Oh and also raced a supposedly wicked fast honda with turbo and spray at local track with my 14.3 second at the time no converter z28 vert .I beat him big time he got like a 2.85 60ft and was all over the track or something he backed off and did an 85mph not sure what happened there. I put buslengths on him.He just bought the car and had tiny street tires and figured he was going to run 11s or 10s like fast and furious guys.He ran 16.0s that day.!! LOL

FWD turbo cars are hard to launch on street tires.
Make him run street tires if you are on street tires.
I also smoked my buddies 300 hp light as heck fwd old subaru xt modifed turbo with my maybe 300 hp 80 trans am since he couldn't hook his fwd up for the life of him.On highway it was much closer couldnt' run him down and he could gradually pull away.But from a dig on street tires forget it.
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Oh wanted to clarify..didn't have the stall or 58 tb or 30 svos or any of the suspension stuff when raced the honda and did a 14.3 at 95mph 1800 track altitude.

Did have the above stuff when raced the sts z28 vert.
Best times so far on my tazzo with new mods haven't gone to track yet are 13.7 with 1.9 to 2.0 60fts.

Zex wet kit is not installed on the z28 yet either.

The talon is my second talon did have a 92 with a 50 trim AGP turbo and most supporting mods but had a factory hurting clutch and no front mount intercooler.Bought high perf clutch and intercooler then sold the 92.Planning on big stuff for the 97 talon though,assembling parts all winter.

Turbo cars are fun as heck thats why want to also turbo the 99.

Have a 400 blue block 80 trans am as well with quite a few mods.

Srt are cool cars.They should have offered them awd.
I like the new eclipses and hoping they offer them as awd turbos might trade up to one of those sooner or later.
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Race and find out. Most people talk a lot of **** and their cars do not hold up to what they claim.



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