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Old 11-08-2006, 04:28 AM
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On my way home last night a nice silver MK1 Elise pulled out infront of me, sadly they where driving like a total ****, far too much traffic on a single lane road. Still their aftermarket exhaust sounded pretty decent.

Anyhow followed them for 5 miles or so until the road turns into dual carriage way.

Raced them 3 or 4 times from various speeds. Man I was really surprised, it wasn't even a race I just walked them. First one was from like 50/60mph I kept the pedal down until I saw 130'ish just to prove the point. I think they where best part of an 1/8th of a mile back

I really thought it would have been closer. And yeah they certainly where trying as on some of the runs they started infront of me, or I let them have the hit.
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What mods do you have? (besides that sweet huge wheel gap mod :p)

C&D got a 4.4 0-60 and 13.2 1/4 mile out of a 2005 Lotus Elise, so you could have taken it stock.
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Glad to know that a Chevy -driving Brit is over there kicking *** and taking names with some of Europe's finest. Good kill.
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the elise is for road racing not drags
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Originally Posted by Tainted
the elise is for road racing not drags
Thats what i was gonna say, go to some back winding roads and watch the elise destroy you. That thing handles like a dream. I believe i saw that it pulled around 1.05 g's on the skidpad
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um 13's in an elise? i dont think so, they run into the 11's, weighing UNDER 2000 pounds with over 200hp.
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um 13's in an elise? i dont think so, they run into the 11's, weighing just over 2000 pounds with over 200hp.



LOL!!!! Ok.


We all know Elises are road racing cars, we dont need an automotive lesson about them. Good kill over in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
the elise is for road racing not drags

Good point, and I totally agree, but the Elise started it so my logic is a kill is a kill. Just like I wouldn't race a WRX or STI in wet weather or try to out- handle one in the twisties. The Elise got a lesson; the lesson is that just because your car can handle like a go-kart doesn't mean that it can out-accelerate everything else on the road. I learned this in my Porsche 911. It's all about picking your moments and he did.
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
um 13's in an elise? i dont think so, they run into the 11's, weighing UNDER 2000 pounds with over 200hp.
thanks for making me waste 5 minutes of my life. here are some links to back up the 13s starting with the one i already referenced:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....9&print_page=y
http://www.aj-computing.co.uk/misc/quartermile/ (this one is a 2001 model)
http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...dandtrack.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...5_lotus_elise/

and to further prove my point, this is a prototype racing elise, and it still doesn't run 11s:
http://www.caranddriver.com/supercar...ge-page15.html
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
On my way home last night a nice silver MK1 Elise pulled out infront of me, sadly they where driving like a total ****, far too much traffic on a single lane road. Still their aftermarket exhaust sounded pretty decent.

Anyhow followed them for 5 miles or so until the road turns into dual carriage way.

Raced them 3 or 4 times from various speeds. Man I was really surprised, it wasn't even a race I just walked them. First one was from like 50/60mph I kept the pedal down until I saw 130'ish just to prove the point. I think they where best part of an 1/8th of a mile back

I really thought it would have been closer. And yeah they certainly where trying as on some of the runs they started infront of me, or I let them have the hit.
I told you i killed that elise. Now you know how slow they are
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no doubt yall beat them on a drag and thumbs up a win is a win. jsut saying its not really meant for it. by the way..the elise is a 13 sec car not 11's. it may be light but it needs more than 190 ponies to get in the 11's
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Originally Posted by Ericbigmac83
Thats what i was gonna say, go to some back winding roads and watch the elise destroy you. That thing handles like a dream. I believe i saw that it pulled around 1.05 g's on the skidpad
This is true, but it also comes off the showroom floor with R compound road race rubber (or close to it), just as the "rally twins" do (Evo & STI).
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
um 13's in an elise? i dont think so, they run into the 11's, weighing UNDER 2000 pounds with over 200hp.





Nice kill on the elise
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Originally Posted by Tainted
no doubt yall beat them on a drag and thumbs up a win is a win. jsut saying its not really meant for it. by the way..the elise is a 13 sec car not 11's. it may be light but it needs more than 190 ponies to get in the 11's
I know exactly what you mean. The elise would whoop some *** in the twisties, i know its not made to go straight. But its fun to get a win.

ps.....definately not 11 sec cars
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Cheers for the replys.

To clear up a few things, yeah it was them that started the race, although I was wanting it anyhow

But it went across two rounda abouts and the road was not completly straight in places but where high speed sweeper style corners. The Fbody may not handle/brake as well as the Elise but it was more than good enough for the roads we happened to be on.

As for the car, lol some of you guys need to remember America isn't the only places cars are sold. j/k

The Elise has been on sale here since 1996, it used to have the Rover 1.8 litre K-Series engine. Stock it had 118bhp. Lotus offered a 135bhp upgrade. The VVC (Variable Valve control - Honda VTEC but more sophisticated) Elise 111S had 143bhp with latter examples being 158bhp.

The Rover unit is often tuned to 190bhp, as found in the Mk1 Exige. This is a smaller lighter engine than the current 190bhp Toyota unit. And the UK spec Mk1 Elise is a lot lighter than the porky US spec Mk2 Elise. Probably by over 200-300lb.

The Mk1 Elise looks like this:

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I'm thinking an elise would be wicked fun with forced induction.
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Screw that variable valve small cube bullshit....they should make them with an optional LS1.
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Originally Posted by z28nbr1fan
Screw that variable valve small cube bullshit....they should make them with an optional LS1.
Meh, I dunno about that. I'd say a nice turbo 4 would do quite well, maybe even a turbo 6. I don't see how an LS1 would work in that car.
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Originally Posted by v8hunter
I'm thinking an elise would be wicked fun with forced induction.
They make one, it's called the 240R and used a supercharger on the Toyota lump. I think it's a centrifugal blower as most complain about where the power is. But it is fast, in recent testing it was lapping the Rockingham race circuit quicker than a Ford GT, which in turn was quicker than a C6 Z06.
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
Meh, I dunno about that. I'd say a nice turbo 4 would do quite well, maybe even a turbo 6. I don't see how an LS1 would work in that car.
+1

I mean it sounds great on paper but it would destroy the handling. More weight, worse weigth distribution (front/rear) and a higher centre of gravity.

Plus if using a V8 and making decent power you would need to have a beefer tranny, diff, axles, suspension, etc. It would just make the car bigger and heavier.

A good turbo 4 cylinder would probably be the best bet. I mean a 2.0 16v can be made to prodcue 400bhp fairly easily and in a car weighing what 1900lb it certainly wouldn't be slow.



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