sparky t/a

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W97aeMXky_o


oh yea, and my hayabusa with the late start

Red99TA

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Pretty good run. Did the 600 let off after the busa passed him? Looks like he might have tapped his brakes. No surprise that the busa pulled everyone like that up top. It's a bad ****

JayplaySS

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Redta, nice cam! Thats the exact cam I had in my SS. Get a good set of heads on there and it will pull NICE! Not that it doesnt now. Good vid. bikes are fast.

ZX10dencies

Busa's are slow.. unless modded to the teeth.

YukonSS

Or they have a turbo (year of 2007 will be boost for me) .

BTW, do you have both the ZX-10 and 1000? My brother has the K6 Red/Black GSXR1000. Its a beast for sure, but how does the new kawi compare? The look is starting to grow on me and I am looking for a 2nd bike cause the turbo busa is gonna be the weekend warrior.

SDB

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I ate up a gsxr-600 and 600RR the other day from a 20 and 45 roll...with a 300lb passenger! they were surprised and now want to go from a dig. They had some mods....sprocketed by the way they wheelied! Nice race with teh Cobra

SDB

ZX10dencies

yes i have both. the Gixxer is my girlfriends 10R is mine.

now, as for the comparisons.. keep in mind opinions are like ********. i think the 10R is a better bike for me. the Gixxer is a bike much better suited for short riders. she's 5'1 and fits the bike well.. i'm over 6' and feel incredibly cramped.. i also come home with bruises on my shins from slamming them into the fairings anytime i put my feet down at a stop.

the Gixxer has a lot more than the 10R down low.. say 5000 and below. it could be attributed to the lower final drive of the Gixxer. (like 2.8 vs 2.6 on the 10) but my suspicions are that the Gixxer is just tougher down low. on the top end is an entirely different story. i had an '05 10R and from a roll she was able to steadily pull away from me (due to weight, as the power of both bikes was similar). now, however i'm able to catch her and pass by pretty easily over 100mph. i'd say she pulls about a bike length to 100, and i can put about a bike on her to 150. the K5/K6's typically dyno around 155whp stock, dynojet. the new 10R's are about 160whp stock, dynojet.

i think the Gixxer is an easier bike to ride for most people. if you took people of varied skill level and experience, i would predict that the Gixxer would lap faster with most people. it fits the more 'common' feel we've grown to know in the late model litre bikes. the new 10R is a mix between my V-twin Aprilia Mille, and the current litrebike feel. it's very stable and surefooted and requires a bit of work to make it act like a hooligan. they took out it's dendency to wheelie, and spin up the rear wheel. they made it a very ride-able bike. i think the 10R would lap faster than the Gixxer outright if both bikes were ridden to their potential. it just takes longer to adjust to the 10R than the Gixxer.

DO NOT, DO NOT NOT NOT NOT, look into an early production '07 Gixxer of any size what-so ever. there is a national epidemic with them at the moment being returned to their dealers within 500 miles with blown motors. Suzuki really screwed the pooch so far in '07.

one of my customers is actually Johnny Cheese, the tuner for most of the reputable Turbo Busa's on the market today. he tuned the bike that went 701whp on the dyno in Montana. if you'd like any advice, assistance, etc on your turbo project, feel free to holler at me.

ZX10dencies

if you're in the 10's that's not surprising at all. it takes a LOT of hustle to get a 600 into the 10's. the average rider won't get there.

guy here at the track (San Antonio Raceway) is sponsored by one of the local shops to race their 600's class. has exhaust, air shifter, tune, and sprockets, with the bike dropped. may have more mod's but he's a tool and tried to tell me the bike was 'stock' when i asked about it

he runs a consistent 10.7x @ 128

so you can see, it takes a decent amount of skill. feel free to run rampant on 600's if you're in the 10's. do, however, watch out for the ZX636's.. they're a little stronger than the average.

SDB

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Hvae a friend with a gsxr600 with mild mods and runs 10. at 128 also. Beat him last year easily. I raced a new 636 with the same 300lb passenger this summer and beat him ON MOTOR. I know I shouldn't have,but he was real young and started quoting how they run low 10's, obviously never being to a track before. Hell, I pulled on a 50 kick on a CBR100RR ('06) without nitrous as well...again SHOULDN't have but obviously rider is everything.

ZX10dencies

yeah.. fast bikes become real slow with bad riders. it's pretty common to see new riders on new 600's trapping in the 115-120 range. a well ridden 636, stock, can trap near 130.

Rickey Gadsen last year at LACR, tested all of the stock 600's. as i recall he ended up with a 10.0 @ 134. he took an R6 with -1 in the front and lowered, and went 9.87 @ 135 if i recall correctly.. but he's an AMA Prostar champion. most definately not your average..

Red99TA

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Thanks, I was actually considering getting a pair of the PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads from TSP. They're quite the steal at $1200 for heads that flow over 300 at .600" with dual springs and Ti retainers included.

ZX10 - how can you call a busa slow? I'm assuming you're being sarcastic. I used to ride an '02 CBR954RR and it wasn't slow by any means, and yes I know the liter bikes are all up about 30WHP nowadays from my old '02 If I was to get another bike it would definitely be a 10R or the Gixxer 1K. Nice bikes!

Sneakyws6

The reason he said that Busa's are slow is because they are, my 05 10R pulls past them with no probs.

On the local dyno the busa only make maybe 5 more rwhp over my 10 but the busa weighs almost a 100 pounds more than the liter bikes. The only place a busa might have a chance against a liter bike is in the over 150 mph range, but by then the lead that a ZX10R has is just to great to over come and catch in time.

Busa's are nice bike, great for long trips and comfort, just dont handle as well and do what i like for the type of riding I do.

Red99TA

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okay if you want to call something slow b/c it doesn't put down the same number in the 9's that a 10R is capable of then fine a Busa is slow. In that sense 99.9% of the cars on this board are slow

ZX10dencies

my problem with Busa's is the fact that they used to be fast. unfortunately, no one has informed their owners that the Busa's are no longer king ****. you are most definately an exception as you've been cool as hell. however more often than not the Busa owners still swagger like they're faster than all else.

i just like to stir the **** a bit, with the ******* owners. you aren't that guy by any means. so, i give you credit on a good vid.

unit213

Tell that to the local guys here running 8's on their 'busas.

YukonSS

I don't stir the pot and I don't think the Hayabusa is God's gift to motorcycles. I know they can be beat (hence I am going turbo to prevent that ), but I believe Ricky Gadson and his ZX-14 got beat by a Hayabusa. So, according to the drags, hayabusa is still King. But I got beat by my brother's stock 06 GSXR1K, not by much a bike length but even though I have 60lbs on him in weight I don't think I would have taken him if we were the same.

Red99TA

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I definitely have much more respect for the liter bikes than the busas. The 1K's are just a MUCH better all around bike and are as fast or faster than the busas which have the huge displacement advantage to begin with. I just don't like how they're so fat and ugly. By the way what did Gadson put down w/ a 14?

ZX10dencies

i think you're thinking of an event in Puerto Rico as i recall, where his nitrous ZX14 lost to some other highly modded Busa in the finals. both bikes were in the 8.50's and very far from stock.

import slayer

wow, that's fast as hell!!

ZX10dencies

who cares? obviously not stock bikes.. and 1 litres can do it too. Rickey's stock (lowered) ZX10 went 9.14@15x.

a very few examples of motorcycles modified to be fast, does not make a fast production motorcycle. of course a Busa is 'fast' in that they'll propel an individual to retarded speeds in a hurry. but by industry comparison, they're not fast. Suzuki did it to themselves, when they didnt redesign the motorcycle for 7 years and counting, during the biggest technology boom motorcycles have ever seen.

Busa's are a great platform for drag racing.. as was mentioned, my customer tuned a Busa that went 701whp in Montana. still doesn't make all Busa's fast.