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Old 01-24-2007, 08:18 PM
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I had just gotten this car, and i seen a mustang GT that sounded bad *** and look very moded so i caught up to him through traffic and rode side by side for like a mile then finally we get to the light, no traffic in front of us. I seriously thought i was gonna lose badly but wanted to see where my car stands, but the light turn green and i got about 1 1/2 cars on him.then we got caught at the next light and he was like "lets try that again" . another car length on him. so now I was geting cocky and at the next light I had to let him know his mustang GT just got spanked by a v6 camaro....he was like "What$#^%! ...do you got spray of something? ... Nope just a new lid and exhust...and drove away.
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the 96 thru 98 4.6 engines sucked 215 hp.they sound good but are the weakest of the v8 mustang.
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haha nice kill
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I remember a test of a Firebird 3.8, 5 speed with the Sport package, (dual exhaust, 3.42 gears and better suspension), against a 5 speed GT. The Pontiac was .2 quicker to 60 and .3 quicker in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
the 96 thru 98 4.6 engines sucked 215 hp.they sound good but are the weakest of the v8 mustang.

I agree.

Nice kill OP. pretty sad when a V8 gt stang loses to a sixer, basically stock.

Hell, I think the S197 V6s will beat those 4.6s, LOL
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yeah the 99up v6 mustangs are faster than the 98 back cars with a va.i dont know what ford was tryin to do in those years.the sn 95 5liter cars sucked as well
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the 3.8 sport package/camaro RS are quick, for V6s. i read somewhere they were as fast, if not faster then the 3rd gen 305s.
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Originally Posted by Randy_W
I remember a test of a Firebird 3.8, 5 speed with the Sport package, (dual exhaust, 3.42 gears and better suspension), against a 5 speed GT. The Pontiac was .2 quicker to 60 and .3 quicker in the 1/4.
wow, embarrasing for the mustang. Had a good friend with a 96 GT supercharged with 10psi and some other bolt ons. Laid down 265hp on a dynojet after tuning. What a waste of $
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I'm gonna play devil's advocate on this one. I had a '98 GT (when I bought it, it was stock) 5spd, and yes it was slow... but not V6 Camaro speed. But almost all of the 94-98 cars have 2.73s as well, and mine was one of the few that got 3.27s. I'm sure that's worth some noticeable difference. And Echo, I think you're thinking of the Y87 package Camaros. I raced an A4 Y87 back when I had my old Integra (stock) from 0-90, and I was surprised that I didn't pass him till about 70mph. They run pretty well.
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
wow, embarrasing for the mustang. Had a good friend with a 96 GT supercharged with 10psi and some other bolt ons. Laid down 265hp on a dynojet after tuning. What a waste of $
Sounds like your friend got a lemon. It should have been very close to 350rwhp with that much boost. Maybe he fried a piston ring or something...
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a 98 Mustang GT is deff. a very good race for a few bolt on 3.8....

I have much more then just bolt on's but i had a similar night with a 01 5spd Mustang GT...he had a holly big bore throttle body, short throw shifter, Headers,exhaust,intake,Ported intake manifold,12lb fiberglass hood and some Computer chip thing (changes your A/F when you get WOT for more power)....needless to say i was only set on 7psi and i smoked him 4 times from a highway roll....last race i let him take off first....still walked him like no tomarrow....I know his mods cause he followed me off the highway to the gas station. 2 Young guys (in their mid 20s) came up to me and asked if i was spraying my LS1...im like LS1?? this is a V6...hes like bullshit pop your hood..sooooo i did and the face he made when he read 3.8 was priceless...so we talked a little bit more, he complemented me alot and we shook hands and off he went. Very cool guys which is odd. Most mustang owners i meet are very very cocky (any mustang owners on this site dont take that personal just saying 95% of the ones i have met are)...

good kill! deff. sounds about right
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Sounds like your friend got a lemon. It should have been very close to 350rwhp with that much boost. Maybe he fried a piston ring or something...
this is the car I was telling you about in another thread. I had to call this guy and get all the facts about the car before talking about it again. He said it just plain sucked. He is 26 years old and has owned 27 cars to this day, several F-bodies and several cobras. This GT was in good condition when the blower was put on but it just never produced any power even on 10lbs. Needless to say, he sold the car a few months after dyno'ing it.
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A PI (99-04) headswap, and full bolt-ons, will get you more than 265rwhp... that's ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A PI (99-04) headswap, and full bolt-ons, will get you more than 265rwhp... that's ridiculous.
I'm just laying the facts on the table. The car didn't have "fried" pistons. It was on 10lbs of boost, and it only dyno'ed at 265. 1996 GT. I'm even gonna try to find a picture of it and see if he still has the dyno chart. God knows you wouldn't want to give it away when you sell the car, it would kill any resale value knowing it only made those numbers.
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Was it an automatic?
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
the 96 thru 98 4.6 2v engines sucked
Corrected it for ya.
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
I'm just laying the facts on the table. The car didn't have "fried" pistons. It was on 10lbs of boost, and it only dyno'ed at 265. 1996 GT. I'm even gonna try to find a picture of it and see if he still has the dyno chart. God knows you wouldn't want to give it away when you sell the car, it would kill any resale value knowing it only made those numbers.

It probably had a whole in the block than. 265 at 10 psi is ridiculously low, I mean yeah the 4.6 didn't have a good year but 265 just isn't a proper number for that car.

Maybe it had a potato for a cat...
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Originally Posted by Randy_W
I remember a test of a Firebird 3.8, 5 speed with the Sport package, (dual exhaust, 3.42 gears and better suspension), against a 5 speed GT. The Pontiac was .2 quicker to 60 and .3 quicker in the 1/4.
A sixbanger rival beating up on a v8 "muscle car" that's sad.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Sounds like your friend got a lemon. It should have been very close to 350rwhp with that much boost. Maybe he fried a piston ring or something...
No IMO those numbers sound right. Let's consider a stock 96 with 215 flywheel rating that's 215 x .85 = 183 to the ground that's 82 gain, 44 percent. Well I stand corrected that does look a little on the low side for 10psi. It may be plausible chocking it with no other modifications.
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Originally Posted by greysteel_M6
A sixbanger rival beating up on a v8 "muscle car" that's sad.
My old (stock) Integra GS-R used to beat up on 3rd gens and 94-98 GTs as well... I think that's even worse. But I had a '98 GT, like I said, and after the few things I did to it, it was at stock 99-04 GT powerlevels. So it wasn't THAT bad.


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