sdm1234

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as i recall from MANY posts and dyno sheets, the LS1 ultimately makes more TQ at any RPM, over the LT1.

CALL911, can u send my all those videos that people sent u to my email please? i would like love to see races stock for stock! i've never seen 2 stockers run together. thanks! email is: sdm1234@lycos.com

CALL911

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I have never stated that the LT1's were faster in anything other than the get go, (0-60, 1/8 mile). I even put the video up to prove it. Decide what you want. I have.

CrabhartLS1

why are LT1 and LS1 guys getting mad at each other in the first place? It's like walking into a trekkie convention and yelling "kirk is a bitch!"

CALL911

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sdm1234, vid links sent to your email.

JKDZ28

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There not faster from the get go, look at the video on page 2.

This is the experience I've had as with others - time and time again.

CALL911

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The video on page two (that wasn't posted by me) was a modded car to a modded car. This is not the disagreement. The arguement was between at completly stock LT1 and a stock LS1 like the video I posted.

ZFan88

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It was a lid and catback on both, hardly modded. You're obviously too close-minded to understand that the LS1 is better anywhere in the race..

brejcha

Also the second video posted was a 2002 LS1 T/A Ws6 pushing like what 325 hp at least and the 97 T/A WS6 pushing 305-310 HP. I know its not much. Also lets stop fighting. We are on the same team.

Lets talk about how both LT1 & LS1 beasts pwn 4.6 liter stockers :-)

skifast87

Honestly we talk about this every 3 monthes or so. We all know what happens. LS1 end of story

burnzilla

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I don't know why these threads spin out of control. The LS1 is faster. Period.

If you want to see a good stock for stock race, line up a M6 Ram Air LT1 against an A4 2.73 LS1.

sdm1234

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HEY MY LT1 CAN KICK BUTT AGAINST AN A4 LS1 haha. just kidding. actually, my cousin just got a '00 M6 LS1 and we're really looking forward to racing eachother soon. i'll try to get a video of it (in car). i think it'll be a great race, because i'm slightly modded and he's stock. he's driven my car before and he says my car breaks 'em loose easier down low than his car. he doesn't know too much about LT1s compared directly with LS1s, nor does he think the LT1 is known as a TQ monster compared to the LS1. he just said that from what he felt, with no other influence from what anyone has said. i'll try to get a vid, and hopefully we'll race when it gets warmer!

CALL911

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Funny how the LS1 guys get all defensive when they even hear that someone believes an older LT1 might actually be faster at one small part of a race.

Whats even more interesting is the fact I opened this thread on both this forum, and the "other" big f-body forum that has more LT1 guys than LS1 guys, and how the results from both threads go with the majority of specific engine owners.

5_02ls1

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gm undrates the ls1 most ls1s put those #s at the wheels your video sucked the vid on page 2 tells the truth

slick1851

Hahhahahahahaha pick a L98 over a LT1



L98 is a boat anchor in my book.....Unless you have a Mini ram on it, and really good good heads

5_02ls1

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first person ive ever seen bash the almighty 350.hope that was sarcasm.the l98 runs almost as good and is way easier to work on and no opti spark

Joezee

No disrespect , but call911, nobody is being defensive.....EVERYONE has responded rather civil.....and yet you continue to believe the myth.....this board is about learning something and sharing knowledge about all of our cars.
So when someone makes, and continues to make false statements, even after this subject has been covered about 10,000 times in the past ,...what do you expect ???
L98s run low 14s with great low end torque.
Lt1s run high 13s to low 14s with good torque and good hp.
Ls1s run mid to low 13s with great torque and great hp.
this is not a secret......at no point in the rpm spectrum does an Lt1 make more torque than an Ls1......why does that offend people ? Lt1s were awsome in their day, and with some mods still are.....there are plenty of cars faster than an Ls1...just not an Lt1.....not bashing at all.

GXPPOWER

call911. the fact is the LS1 makes more power at any point in the rpms. its been shown on these boards numerous times in dyno graphs. second stock for stock both equally driven an ls1 will be an lt1 in the 1/8 mile. your bragging about 1 video lol. with noone know what the circumstances are. then argue with us who have ran vs lt1s numerous times. and come with the same results. when i have traction an lt1 is never infront of me. and even when i spin off the line im pulling back on the lt1 before im out of first gear. and im an a4 freaking convertible. and these experiences was when i just had a cutout.

like i said earlier i doubt even one lt1 100% stock ran 8.6 in the 1/8 mile. that was my time stock in my heavy slow a4 vert.

JKDZ28

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I owned my LT1 for 6 years. Went from stock, full boltons, 3000 stall to full-bolt-ons with a 6 speed.

I'll assure you, the LT1 is not faster from any RPM.

I had full boltons and I NEVER could beat a stock LS1 - never...

CALL911

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If anyone can find ACTUAL dyno charts of a bone stock LT1 and a BONE stock LS1, you will find that the LT1's torque peaks at 2400 RPM at 325 (factory stats). The LS1 peaks around exactly the same torque (325 ish from the same factory stats), however at 4,000 RPM. During this difference in 1600 RPM, is the difference in question here. I will try to dig up factory/bone stock dyno graphs. If anyone else can post them up feel free as well.

LS1's also react better to mods than LT1's. This is most likely the big difference between my stock to stock video showing what I am saying that everyone says sucks compared with the modded LT1 with the modded LS1 video. The video is not of as good of quality, however it accuratly shows a STOCK LT1 vs a STOCK LS1. If you just say the video that shows a stock to stock LS1 vs LT1 sucks and then keep saying that a modded LS1 to a modded LT1 is accurate of both stock cars, you are not presenting a good or accurate case here. Show me another video of a factory stock LT1 vs factory stock LS1? Show me actual factory dyno graphs??

For those that keep screaming that LS1's make more power (total) and that they run faster in the quarter mile, you are not listening to what is in question. I have never disputed these facts of total power or quarter mile time.

CALL911

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Here's another video of a bone stock LS1, and a bone stock LT1 from a roll, (same sucky quality, but you can see how the LS1 has total advantage up top)