bolt on SS M6 vs bolt on Mach 1 M5
03-13-2007, 03:05 PM
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bolt on SS M6 vs bolt on Mach 1 M5 I ran into a black Mach 1 on the highway recently. It was a very nice looking car, had loud exhaust, and the guy wanted to play. 
We just did the casual 2nd gear roll race gear 40-110mph. He got a 1/2 car jump (I hate being the one doing the 3 honk count...) and I ended up with a 1/2 car on him. Other than the jump neither of us were the better driver, both hitting shifts like an automatic.
His car had long tubes, 2.5" o/r X, flowmaster catback, CAI, and a Predator tune. My mods are in the sig. This was the first Mach 1 I've raced, and I thought I should have come out a little better, particularly after 75. Does this sound about right or is something holding my car back? I beat an 01 Cobra w/ exhaust before the intake mods by ~ 2 carlenghts about 2 years ago.
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We just did the casual 2nd gear roll race gear 40-110mph. He got a 1/2 car jump (I hate being the one doing the 3 honk count...) and I ended up with a 1/2 car on him. Other than the jump neither of us were the better driver, both hitting shifts like an automatic. His car had long tubes, 2.5" o/r X, flowmaster catback, CAI, and a Predator tune. My mods are in the sig. This was the first Mach 1 I've raced, and I thought I should have come out a little better, particularly after 75. Does this sound about right or is something holding my car back? I beat an 01 Cobra w/ exhaust before the intake mods by ~ 2 carlenghts about 2 years ago.
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03-13-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro99SS
I ran into a black Mach 1 on the highway recently. It was a very nice looking car, had loud exhaust, and the guy wanted to play. We just did the casual 2nd gear roll race gear 40-110mph. He got a 1/2 car jump (I hate being the one doing the 3 honk count...) and I ended up with a 1/2 car on him. Other than the jump neither of us were the better driver, both hitting shifts like an automatic.
His car had long tubes, 2.5" o/r X, flowmaster catback, CAI, and a Predator tune. My mods are in the sig. This was the first Mach 1 I've raced, and I thought I should have come out a little better, particularly after 75. Does this sound about right or is something holding my car back? I beat an 01 Cobra w/ exhaust before the intake mods by ~ 2 carlenghts about 2 years ago.
Jason
We just did the casual 2nd gear roll race gear 40-110mph. He got a 1/2 car jump (I hate being the one doing the 3 honk count...) and I ended up with a 1/2 car on him. Other than the jump neither of us were the better driver, both hitting shifts like an automatic. His car had long tubes, 2.5" o/r X, flowmaster catback, CAI, and a Predator tune. My mods are in the sig. This was the first Mach 1 I've raced, and I thought I should have come out a little better, particularly after 75. Does this sound about right or is something holding my car back? I beat an 01 Cobra w/ exhaust before the intake mods by ~ 2 carlenghts about 2 years ago.
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03-13-2007, 04:42 PM
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That sounds about right to me. 01 cobra's and machs do have different heads and intake cams. One thing to consider that may agree with BlueGoat's comment....box predator tunes hurt these cars more than help. With exhaust mods, a dyno tune is best. If he had a box tune, there was alot more in that car.
Maybe he had some weight reduction?......over all though, this race sounds about right. Just one of my experiences, matches this......granted that was only one race, but I had my Ex-Wife's car, and raced an M6 Z with the SLP option, and we were neck and neck.
Maybe he had some weight reduction?......over all though, this race sounds about right. Just one of my experiences, matches this......granted that was only one race, but I had my Ex-Wife's car, and raced an M6 Z with the SLP option, and we were neck and neck.
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Originally Posted by BlueGoat06
nice kill, your car is running kind of crappy, or the mach had more mods, 4.10's for example would do wonders on the 4v dohc engine.
03-13-2007, 05:32 PM
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^ I rolled my eyes at that post too. But the outcome is about right. That's exactly what I was expecting. If the Mach had gears or weight reduction it would've been a little closer. The SS also has two additional mods that the Mach doesn't have. IMHO, the Mach held it's own pretty damn good. It definitely deserves more credit for that alone.
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03-13-2007, 09:41 PM
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The Mach definitely did not have gears. It was pretty loud and each gear of his lasted almost as long as mine, definitely not what a 4.10+ geared car would do. It also did not have any weight reduction. It was just a very clean Mach with all the bolt ons. Plus we talked for a little bit in a fast food parking lot right after.
I suspected my car was running a bit sluggish last fall as I've beaten cars I shouldn't have 2 yrs ago. The plugs (TR-55s) are fresh as is the fuel filter, and A/F is 12.8-13/1 across the board. No pushrods were bent either. The only thing I can think of is worn out valve springs as the car has 109k on it. I do have some LS6's I got for cheap I'll throw on to see. I just can't afford a cam swap for awhile.
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I suspected my car was running a bit sluggish last fall as I've beaten cars I shouldn't have 2 yrs ago. The plugs (TR-55s) are fresh as is the fuel filter, and A/F is 12.8-13/1 across the board. No pushrods were bent either. The only thing I can think of is worn out valve springs as the car has 109k on it. I do have some LS6's I got for cheap I'll throw on to see. I just can't afford a cam swap for awhile.
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exactly what i was thinking
03-13-2007, 10:38 PM
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I raced one from a 70 mph roll last week, and only got him by a car length by the time we hit about 110 or so, and I'm doing low 12's and trapping near 110 in the 1/4. Mach's are no joke, and the one I raced hung with me alot better than I expected him to. Cool cars, and if I had to buy a Mustang and a 03 Cobra wasn't available, I'd buy the Mach for sure.
03-14-2007, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang
i really enjoy my mach, soon to be done with the sc install. i have races h/c ls1s and they were suprised wheni hung or in some cases out run then.
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03-14-2007, 10:11 AM
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I have a buddy with a Mach 1, and we have been plotting a race for a while. I new his car was quick but i didnt think i would have any problems with him. this give me something to concider...
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good clean run. I might add my .02 cents and say you didn't pull anymore because you shut it down at 110mph. If the race would have gone further you MIGHT have pulled a tad more.
03-14-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueGoat06
nice kill, your car is running kind of crappy, or the mach had more mods, 4.10's for example would do wonders on the 4v dohc engine.
