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Old 03-13-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default 02 camaro vs. early 90's Talon

so, This race hasn't happened yet but, what mods would it take for an early 90's talon to beat my 2002 z28 with longtubes, true duals, SLP flow pac (lid, smooth bellow, ram air, and filter) , MS4 with tune, and 3500 stall? We have this guy talking **** that says he has some "head work" and other mods. To bad I dont have a camera. I know its not a kill story yet but I wanted some funny posts just for the hell of it.

the cam and stall are waiting to be put in, and he thinks anything over 600 lift is a waste.


what do you guys think?
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Well I believe it's gonna take quite a bit, not exactly sure how much for him to even keep up with you. Stock his car is in the 15's. And if he does have enough power to beat you then his car will probably break as soon as he gets by you. haha. Talons are pieces of crap.
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i say u put some money on this one
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well is it a tsi talon?
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Originally Posted by tspence45
Talons are pieces of crap.

You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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easy in......your car will be capable of high 11s...........now ibtl
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Hes going to need a nice sized turbo to play with you, I would put money on this....


That guy doesnt know LS1s if he thinks .600 lift is to much
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My friends bone stock Tsi went 14.7. AWD launch is pretty nasty, even stock. If he has headwork and his "other mods" have anything to do with upping boost alot (i.e.) an aftermarket turbo you could have a race on your hands. There was a website and I dont know if its still up but a guy took a Talon or a Laser and spent around $2000 in it and had it in the 11s.
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Originally Posted by diambo4life
You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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sounds good guys, I was just wondering. We will be getting the cam in soon, so i guess I will keep you posted.
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Originally Posted by LPELS1
sounds good guys, I was just wondering. We will be getting the cam in soon, so i guess I will keep you posted.
Sounds like he was sandbagging. You may be in for a helluva fight. When people ask me whats in my Talon I just say intake and exhaust mods.

Which technically is true, but far from descriptive. Dont put money on the race.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
My friends bone stock Tsi went 14.7. AWD launch is pretty nasty, even stock. If he has headwork and his "other mods" have anything to do with upping boost alot (i.e.) an aftermarket turbo you could have a race on your hands. There was a website and I dont know if its still up but a guy took a Talon or a Laser and spent around $2000 in it and had it in the 11s.
Then he jerry rigged his car with eBay parts.

DSM's take a hell of a lot more than $2K to break into the 11's. Things literally break, like trannys, transfer cases, driveshafts, clutches, way before you're in the 11's, more like low 14's. They are pieces of crap. And then of course there's the crank walk issues that you have to worry about. On your way to the 11's you'll go through at least one motor.

And once you upgrade everything, they still break. Its a **** poor quality car, Chrysler quality with Mitsubishi engineering. Worst of both worlds.
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but dude they make up for it in styling
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ewwww. I hate Talon ESi's. The TSi atleast looks a little better with actual wheels and a different front clip and the bigger spoiler. And that's the newer style from 95 to whenever they stopped production of Talons, was it 98? I know the Eclipses that style went to 99 but I've never seen that new of a Talon, the newest I've seen is probably a 97. But either way, they are pretty hideous. And yes Talons are crappy, my friend just informed me the other night that the motor locked up on his 93 and it has less than 90,000 miles on it and it's stock.
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Originally Posted by XtremeBBQ



but dude they make up for it in styling


Looks like a Cavalier with down syndrome
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6


Looks like a Cavalier with down syndrome
LMFAO! I can so see that!
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Then he jerry rigged his car with eBay parts.

DSM's take a hell of a lot more than $2K to break into the 11's. Things literally break, like trannys, transfer cases, driveshafts, clutches, way before you're in the 11's, more like low 14's. They are pieces of crap. And then of course there's the crank walk issues that you have to worry about. On your way to the 11's you'll go through at least one motor.

And once you upgrade everything, they still break. Its a **** poor quality car, Chrysler quality with Mitsubishi engineering. Worst of both worlds.
Why don't you learn a thing or two before you go spewing out random **** you know nothing about?
275k miles, high 12's, $870 invested in mods. Yea, real garbage
Crankwalk on an early 90's dsm? your a ******* moron
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Originally Posted by LPELS1
so, This race hasn't happened yet but, what mods would it take for an early 90's talon to beat my 2002 z28 with longtubes, true duals, SLP flow pac (lid, smooth bellow, ram air, and filter) , MS4 with tune, and 3500 stall? We have this guy talking **** that says he has some "head work" and other mods. To bad I dont have a camera. I know its not a kill story yet but I wanted some funny posts just for the hell of it.

the cam and stall are waiting to be put in, and he thinks anything over 600 lift is a waste.


what do you guys think?
That should be a good race, especially if he's not blowing smoke about head work, because that's not really one of the first things you do to get an 11-12 second dsm, he 'might' be heavily modded.
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If he has some work done these DSMs can fly for cheap, cheap cars yeah, but they can be fast with a little work there is a couple just in town that hit the
9.7-9.9 range in the 1/4 street legal.............Good luck Man

here is one of them>>>>>>Click here to see Video

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Careful man, those mitsubishis in the hands of the right people are nasty little buggers. they say they have some bolt ons...and ******* run nines on your *** lol. but u might have him too.



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