Killemall

Well their has been a lot of debate on this subject..

I have persoanlly raced a stock NSX in my modded C5 as well as viper and it is my opinion that a 1997 and up NSX will take an LS1 Fbody/C5 easily on a 60-130 mph highway roll...

But many disagree with me...

So to end this....Their will be a video of a stock *auto* LS1 fbody vrs a stock *manual* 04 NSX, here shortly.

Still getting everything 100% arranged.

I apologize for the Fbody being an auto. But finding a 100% bone stock Fbody with a driver who likes to race is not easy. So the auto is all we have at this point.

25psi

Its gonna be ugly. I say 3-4 cars are more to 160.

2000 SILVERADO

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kidcamaro98

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i say we see some pics of the new Carerra GT from 25PSI!!!!!!!!!









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Can a NSX even do 160???

Killemall

I think the 97 and up can do 175 mph...

Im gonna do a search right now to find out though.

wakeskate

wow thats impressive if they can do that. I didnt even think they were really fast at all. There pretty sweet cars though

Phil8616

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Ha, ya whats next a Bugatti Veyron?

but ya a stock A4 Fbody winning on a highway roll against a NSX isnt looking good, but hell anything can happen

Killemall

Building on the sleek, mid-engine design and distinctive styling that have made the Acura NSX a favorite among sports car enthusiasts, Acura has given the 2002 NSX a variety of styling enhancements that give it an even more contemporary, high performance look. Combined with refinements to the suspension, these changes not only enhance the way the NSX looks, but also make it more aerodynamic and boost its already impressive performance.
All NSXs now feature a removable roof panel as standard equipment for open-air driving. Two new colors, Long Beach Blue Pearl and Imola Orange Pearl have been added for 2002. The front fascia has been changed to give the car a more contemporary, yet still distinctive appearance. The pop-up headlights have been replaced with lighter, fixed position High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights which update the look while producing twice the illumination of conventional headlights. Other enhancements to the front of the car include an aggressively styled front bumper, a revised chin spoiler and a revised hood line.
In the rear, the turn signals, which in the past have been integrated into the taillight housing, now occupy their own circular housings set off from the rest of the lights. Revised badging, a revised bumper with air diffuser, a new trunk lip spoiler and new exhaust finishers subtly update the rear fascia while maintaining the car's distinctive design. *****************Overall, external improvements to the 2002 NSX not only enhance the car's look, but also improve aerodynamic performance enough to boost the car's top speed from 168 mph to 175 mph.******************
The hand-stitched, leather-trimmed interior of the NSX is designed to evoke the image of a jet fighter cockpit, providing excellent visibility, easy-to-read instrumentation and supportive, leather seats. In addition to black or tan, for 2002, the NSX is available with six new interior colors: Vivid Blue, Vivid Orange, Vivid Red, Vivid Yellow, Targa Silver and White. These interior color schemes can be matched to the car's exterior color for a customized, high tech look. The center panel has also been updated with black chrome plating replacing the tin-nickel coating.


So it appears that even though the 97-01 have the same exact engine as the 02-06...The differance in the body shape lets the 02 ba an overall faster car. 168 vrs 175 mph is pretty good for just arodynamics..

So while a 97-01 with the 3.2 litre would turn the same exact 1/4 mile time as the 02-06 NSX..

The 02 and up NSX would give a better performance on a roll race if your talking 60-140 PLUS mph.

Pretty interesting.

much like someone racing a 2002 rt10 Viper and then a 2002 GTSViper...While they would both be the same in the 1/4 mile...

the GTS's arodynamics allow it to hit 190 mph while the rt10 can hit 180 mph. SO a GTS would give a better performance over a rt10 on a 60-140 mph PLUS roll race...


This is very interesting indeed and awnswers quite a few questions of mine as too why many people say their slow...

These people raced the 91-96 versions... But then some have also raced the 97-2001 versions wich are much faster..But then the 2002 and ups ( like the one i raced) are even faster still..

Man i cant wait to see this vid.

ONEBADASSWS6

How about racing a *stock* MANUAL LS1 F-Body against a *stock* MANUAL '04 NSX??

Oh wait, that'd be too fair

Irunelevens

Did you not see what he said in the first post?

Edit: Not that it would matter, anyway... at some point, the NSX will still win

Killemall

Simply amazing machines...

A c5Z06 will dyno 350 rwhp and weighs 31XX pounds and only has a top speed of 171 mph..

The NSX will dyno 260 rwhp and weighs 31xx pounds and has a top speed of 175 mph...

Talk about engineering man..

Irunelevens

Shhhh.... that's gonna get 'em all riled up

djsanchez2

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Were are you located? I have a stock for now M6. Minus the rims and stock SLP lid & Dual/Dual, all down to the paper filter. Well performance wise at least. Would that be fair? I'd be willing to do it if it's close enough.

B.W.

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An auto LS1 vs. a manual NSX from a 60 roll? I don't see the LS1 coming out on top. Why exactly aren't they racing from a stop again?

Cgillies86

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I can not see an NSX pulling away from a manual C5 from a roll. Weight to power ratio is good tool for generally approximating a cars performance ignoring traction.

According to this link here: http://www.hondanews.com/categories/...0?archive=2000

The NSX weighs 3069lbs in its lightest form. The NSX has a coefficient of drag of .32, and a frontal area of 19.16 square feet. From what I have seen the newer NSX dynos around 270 RWHP. This constitutes a weight to power ratio of 11.366.

The C5 manual Coupe on the other hand weighs 3218lbs. The C5 has a coefficient of drag of .29, and a frontal area of 21.6 square feet. Again, from what I’ve seen the C5 dynos around 300 RWHP. This equates to a weight to power ratio of 10.726.

The C5 has the weight to power weight advantage and the aerodynamics are a wash. From this, I assume it would be a close race between a manual C5 and a manual NSX from a roll. Obviously this conjecture would assume equal driver capability.

If the NSX is indeed faster than a manual C5 from roll, then I guess VTEC denies all logical reasoning.

Irunelevens

If an NSX manual is that close to a 6spd C5 from a roll (which it is), then it *should* beat a 6spd F-body from a roll as well, seeing as the C5 trumps them up top.

jason1384

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Can we get 2 races? 1 from a roll 1 from a dig.

Stopsign32v

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Stopsign32v

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Dude that car in your sig looks mean! I bet that black SS looks wicked. Whos the chick? Shes hot too...

Killemall

I can not see an NSX pulling away from a manual C5 from a roll. Weight to power ratio is good tool for generally approximating a cars performance ignoring traction.

According to this link here: http://www.hondanews.com/categories...00?archive=2000

The NSX weighs 3069lbs in its lightest form. The NSX has a coefficient of drag of .32, and a frontal area of 19.16 square feet. From what I have seen the newer NSX dynos around 270 RWHP. This constitutes a weight to power ratio of 11.366.

The C5 manual Coupe on the other hand weighs 3218lbs. The C5 has a coefficient of drag of .29, and a frontal area of 21.6 square feet. Again, from what I’ve seen the C5 dynos around 300 RWHP. This equates to a weight to power ratio of 10.726.

The C5 has the weight to power weight advantage and the aerodynamics are a wash. From this, I assume it would be a close race between a manual C5 and a manual NSX from a roll. Obviously this conjecture would assume equal driver capability.

If the NSX is indeed faster than a manual C5 from roll, then I guess VTEC denies all logical reasoning.
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I apreciate you taking the time to look at this in a logical way...How ever an NSX is 3060-3140 pounds...Or an average of 3100 pounds.

A c5 coupe ( with only 1 top ) is 3270 pounds. maybe in 1997 when their was the roll up window C5 with abosolutely no options/performance groups their was one that weighed 3218 pounds..

My 2004 auto with both roofs weighed 3310 pounds. the manual version is 20 pounds lighter ( less weight for the trannie) at 3290 pounds ( as observed from a buddys manual C5 registration)

Now if our models had only had the color top and not glass top. We would have been 16 pounds less on our registrations at 3294 for my auto and 3274 for his manual respectivly ( wich is about what you'll see in every publication)


Cgillies86..Do me a favor and go look at the registration on your 97 C5...This is what it actually weighned in at from the factory with all fluids topped..Let us know.

So the NSX is right around 3100 pounds give or take 20 pounds and the c5 is right around 3300 pounds give or take 20 pounds.

so the NSX is on average 200 pounds lighter...

Then factor in that the NSX dyno's 260-270 rwhp while the C5 dyno's 290-300 rwhp..

And the C5 having the edge on CD..with a .29 vrs .32 but the NSX having a smaller frontal area...

ALL THIS MEANS ( as you already stated) that they should be nearly dead even on a roll race..

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But your forgetting somthing very important...

ther manual C5 has a 3.42 rear end
The NSX has a 4.06 rear end

the C5 red lines at 6000
the NSX red lines at 8000

The NSX is making far better use of it's available power to weight than the C5 is..

imagine the performance of a C5 with a 4.06 rear end and LS1 tech letting it rev out another 500 rpm's...

WALLAH...You have the performance of a bone stock 2002 NSX on the freeway