Road Racing - Can a modded F-body be comparable to a modded vette?
11-21-2008, 05:09 PM
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Road Racing - Can a modded F-body be comparable to a modded vette? AND... still be street driveable?
Hypothetically, take this vette.
Stock C5 Z06 with pfadt coilovers and sway bars on hoosiers.
What would it take to make an f-body handle just as well?
Hypothetically, take this vette.
Stock C5 Z06 with pfadt coilovers and sway bars on hoosiers.
What would it take to make an f-body handle just as well?
11-21-2008, 05:42 PM
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I don't see it happening.
IRS makes a big difference when it comes to handling. that and the fact that our f-bodies weigh what, about 500lbs MORE than the vette?
stiffer springs, Koni's, front & rear swaybars, maybe even the WATTS linkage, and get rid of as much weight as you can, 315 R compound tires on all 4 corners, superlight wheels, and maybe an extra 100 hp to compensate for the f-body's weight...
Oh yeah, better brakes too...NOT C5 upgrades.
Brembo's, AP Racing, to a lesser extent Wilwoods and Baer and SSBC I guess...
IMHO.
IRS makes a big difference when it comes to handling. that and the fact that our f-bodies weigh what, about 500lbs MORE than the vette?
stiffer springs, Koni's, front & rear swaybars, maybe even the WATTS linkage, and get rid of as much weight as you can, 315 R compound tires on all 4 corners, superlight wheels, and maybe an extra 100 hp to compensate for the f-body's weight...
Oh yeah, better brakes too...NOT C5 upgrades.
Brembo's, AP Racing, to a lesser extent Wilwoods and Baer and SSBC I guess...
IMHO.
11-21-2008, 06:06 PM
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a 98 vette is rated at 3,245 lbs. a 98 t/a is 3,477 lbs. the weight isn't much of a difference.
a vette though has a more sophisticated suspension system that makes it put the power down faster out of a turn. but, if you have more power than it and comparable mods I doubt there would be much of a difference. more of a drivers race, road course takes a lot of skill. the best thing you could probably do is professional lessons.
a vette though has a more sophisticated suspension system that makes it put the power down faster out of a turn. but, if you have more power than it and comparable mods I doubt there would be much of a difference. more of a drivers race, road course takes a lot of skill. the best thing you could probably do is professional lessons.
11-21-2008, 06:09 PM
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a 98 vette is rated at 3,245 lbs. a 98 t/a is 3,477 lbs. the weight isn't much of a difference.
a vette though has a more sophisticated suspension system that makes it put the power down faster out of a turn. but, if you have more power than it and comparable mods I doubt there would be much of a difference. more of a drivers race, road course takes a lot of skill. the best thing you could probably do is professional lessons.
a vette though has a more sophisticated suspension system that makes it put the power down faster out of a turn. but, if you have more power than it and comparable mods I doubt there would be much of a difference. more of a drivers race, road course takes a lot of skill. the best thing you could probably do is professional lessons.
11-21-2008, 06:12 PM
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Completely possible.
My street car with 360/380 and over 3400lbs with 315 Nittos on all 4, most of LGMs catalog and plain old Bilstein shocks could routinely catch T1 suspended C5 with LG long tubes on Hoosiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGrYXUs7C0
My street car with 360/380 and over 3400lbs with 315 Nittos on all 4, most of LGMs catalog and plain old Bilstein shocks could routinely catch T1 suspended C5 with LG long tubes on Hoosiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGrYXUs7C0
11-21-2008, 06:14 PM
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Completely possible.
My street car with 360/380 and over 3400lbs with 315 Nittos on all 4, most of LGMs catalog and plain old Bilstein shocks could routinely catch T1 suspended C5 with LG long tubes on Hoosiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGrYXUs7C0
My street car with 360/380 and over 3400lbs with 315 Nittos on all 4, most of LGMs catalog and plain old Bilstein shocks could routinely catch T1 suspended C5 with LG long tubes on Hoosiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGrYXUs7C0
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11-21-2008, 07:13 PM
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Original poster was referring to a C5 z06, lighter than a standard vette.
And let's face it, michntx is an accomplished driver from what I heard, he could probably get in a Geo Prism and keep up
Seriously though, comparing an modded f-body to a comparably modded Z06, really, there's no comparison.
Okay, so 500lbs heavier is exaggerating, but it certainly weighs more than 230 lbs compared to a Z06.
A Z06 is wider, lower, lighter, better suspension.
a vette though has a more sophisticated suspension system that makes it put the power down faster out of a turn. but, if you have more power than it and comparable mods I doubt there would be much of a difference. more of a drivers race, road course takes a lot of skill. the best thing you could probably do is professional lessons.
11-23-2008, 11:07 AM
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Variations of this similar question appear a few times a year. Most of the time the question is vague. Kinda like the "whats the best flat washer" thread. The corvette is better than the fbody at certain things and vice versa in other situations
11-23-2008, 12:41 PM
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I think the problem is that the way the F body is set up v. the Y body.
We are talking AL a arms, different suspension angles, different mounting points, a CHASSIS, lower weight distrib.
Factor in a lot more money spent on its development!
Aftermarket parts will help us but can it make up for all of the above?
We are talking AL a arms, different suspension angles, different mounting points, a CHASSIS, lower weight distrib.
Factor in a lot more money spent on its development!
Aftermarket parts will help us but can it make up for all of the above?
11-23-2008, 12:57 PM
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Too many jump on the IRS superiority band wagon. While it has it's advantages, it's not the supreme platform. A live axle can do a heckuva lot.
I guess the answer lies in the hole put in your wallet. A $6000 Camaro with $10,000 worth of driveline, brakes and suspension can absolutely spank a $30,000 T1 prepped C5.
I guess the answer lies in the hole put in your wallet. A $6000 Camaro with $10,000 worth of driveline, brakes and suspension can absolutely spank a $30,000 T1 prepped C5.
