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Old 12-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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Just curious how much removing the front sway bar will help with my traction issues . I have some traction issues and was curious if this would at least help me plant the rear tires a little better? Let me know what you guys think. I plan on purchasing M/T radials and a little suspension work in the near future, but my nitto drag radials will have to do for now.
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sway bars are more for handling really... if you want better traction i think most guys are going with LCA's.
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Originally Posted by 01CaMMMaro
sway bars are more for handling really... if you want better traction i think most guys are going with LCA's.
Wouldn't listen to that guy
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Originally Posted by danhr
Wouldn't listen to that guy
then why dont you educate us a little smart one. im just trying to help, ive never done drag racing so im just trying to help from what i know about my DD and how sway bars help handling alot.
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front sway bar = removal = better weight transfer = less weight

rear sway bar = drag bar = allows you to preload your suspension = straighter launches = less squating
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elaborate on the rear sway bar details, I totally understand about the front sway bar.
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Think of it this way. The engine/transmission rotates the drive axle to turn the rear end gears and axles. It also cause the axle to want to rotate in the same direction, so one wheel gets more downward force. The engine side wants to rotate the other way. Both make for a poor combination leaving straight.

The rear swaybar helps keep the chassis and the axle more rigid with each other. BMR and other places have real big bars for this.

For handling swaybars are used a bit different and drag vs handling swaybar setups are almost contradict each other.

Please note I am also not a drag racer...
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Front Sway Bar- just disconnect the End Links.

Rear- just get QA1's and drop the Tire pressure..
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if you are disconnecting the end links, why not just lose the 4 nuts and cut the extra ~20 lbs off the nose of the car and take the sway bar off completely?

and adjusting the qa1's and dropping tire pressure won't help your car leave straight as much as a drag bar. The closest mod you could do to get the effect of a drag bar is putting an air bag in the spring.

take a look at this...



That's a car launching without the aid of a drag bar and flexing off the line.
Does it look cool? Hell yeah! does it net good ET? Hell no!

Think of it... that passenger tire has a majority of the load on it, while the driver's side is being lifted off the ground. It's almost like having an open slip differential.

Having a drag bar eliminates that flex and allows both tires to be planted evenly. so instead of just having that one tire up in the air, this guy could of had both of them in the air.

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Best way to tell man is just try it in a few months, alot of people will tell you it helps, and alot will tell you it wont. I talked to jinxs about it and he said he didnt notice a difference, but hell when you rippin 60s like he was, you may not notice the difference. As far as the rear sway bar, right now you can buy better mods for the price of it. Thats more for the big HP cars. Id look into shocks instead of upgrading the rear for right now. Youll notice a big improvement with the M/Ts over the Nittos though.
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Originally Posted by SuperSlow02
As far as the rear sway bar, right now you can buy better mods for the price of it. Thats more for the big HP cars. Id look into shocks instead of upgrading the rear for right now.
Agreed. I'd look at investing your money in a set of shocks/lca/lca relocation brackets.

Unless you are a perfectionist like myself. I had a full suspension setup (everything except front lower/upper a-arms) before I even had full bolt ons.
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launches r harder also
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im looking to undo an end link. maybe i can spray out of the whole
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I have the front sway bar off..car handles worse in turns obiously but getting weight off the front end helps alot in a drag car
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Originally Posted by danhr
and adjusting the qa1's and dropping tire pressure won't help your car leave straight as much as a drag bar. The closest mod you could do to get the effect of a drag bar is putting an air bag in the spring.
For the Track I had my right side adjusted about 3 clicks stiffer, and mine launched off the line like a rocket pretty straight, 1.56 60ft's with 3.73's and a Yank SS3600 Stall. I managed to pick both of the tires up as well.
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This guy has his passenger side 2 clicks stiffer...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...ile_182187.htm

could he adjusted some more? yes... but in all reality, it boils down to this... by placing an air bag, having one shock softer than the other, you are just putting a band-aid on the problem.
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thanks for all the advice guys, helped out a bunch.
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Originally Posted by MYSTIC-1SC
thanks for all the advice guys, helped out a bunch.
it doesnt matter how fast you make your car you can never really beat anybody (even if you beat them) LOL
if you try un hooking it man let me know how it goes i need all the help i can get also.
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removing the front sway bar will help with traction. it worked well with my first thirdgen. i also put an airbag in the right rear spring and that worked as well.
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Yea I will be unhooking it in the next few days. I will let you know how it goes Dustin.



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