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Old 01-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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If this post is not permitted, mods please remove it, but I'm not actually selling anything, just gauging interest in a possible product. If at some point I do begin producing something, I would become a site sponsor.

One thing that I have noticed that has been missing from the F-Body performance market is reasonably priced big brake kits, and the complete lack of 4-wheel kits. I am interested in designing and producing a full big brake kit based around Wilwood calipers and off the shelf disks, that would greatly increase brake performance and cost significantly less than larger name big brake kits. C5 Corvette rotors would be utilized up front and 98-02 F-body front rotors in the back with 6 and 4 piston calipers respectively. They should fit under any 17 inch wheel. I haven't started any development on these yet, but if I get some interest I may kick it into high gear and see how quickly I can get a trust-worthy kit put together.

Let me know if there's anything additional you'd like to see or if you have any thoughts or suggestions. Thanks!

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if this was for a reasonable price i would be very interested. I hate how it looks with big brakes in the front and tiny in the back.
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I completely agree with what was said above. I hate the look of the dinky little brakes on the rear. If it wont break the bank, I think youll have a ton of interest.
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arent the rears 12" and stock fronts around 12"?

how do you plan to deal with the e-brake? its a drum type of setup and requires a proper rotors with a small drum in the middle.

would this kit require adjustment of the proportioning valve?

While I dig the idea, it kinda scares me to think of a "budget" big brake kit. brakes are important for safety and shouldnt be designed as a backyard project.
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i am going to run the new caddy cts-v(same as zr1) in my front, 6 piston. and the 4 piston rears off the same car.

just need to get my tires rims first. on and it will be the 2007 zo6 rotor
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arent the ctsv wheels 6 lug?
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yes, the cts-v is a 6 lug but, the z06 rotor is a 5 lug. so it will work
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Originally Posted by fast01z28
arent the rears 12" and stock fronts around 12"?

how do you plan to deal with the e-brake? its a drum type of setup and requires a proper rotors with a small drum in the middle.

would this kit require adjustment of the proportioning valve?

While I dig the idea, it kinda scares me to think of a "budget" big brake kit. brakes are important for safety and shouldnt be designed as a backyard project.
It may require a little bit of proportioning, or different pads from front to back. The big part of keeping it "budget" is in the rotors and not ridiculously over-charging for a name. The e-brake for street applications I'm planning on using a small Wilwood cable spot caliper on both sides, hopefully using the stock cables as well, assuming the drum won't work with the alternate rotor. I'll definitely get going on this since people seem interested. For pricing I'm shooting for a little under the price of a Brembo big brake kit, except for all 4 corners rather that front only.
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^ ^ ^ so if i take a stock zo6 rear rotor. my f-body e brake wont work?


why?
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Diff offset from vette to your F-bod. Yes they are both drum parking brakes but the off set is a lot diff, won't work!
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can i use the vete ebrake thing?
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You may be on to something. The trick will be keeping costs/price in line - majority of f-body owners are notoriously cheap. My opinion is you are on the right track using mostly existing GM parts and putting them together in the right combination. Balance and reliability are as important as performance and price. As an example, there are lots of ways to handle proportioning front to rear: caliper strength/force, pad compound, rotor size, hydraulically. Some of these results you just won't know until you try different combos on the car over time. Using matched components like you are with the Brembo pieces (CTS-V?), is the right way to go IMHO. Test it, see how they stop, hold up, and look for unusual wear patterns. The more you can stay away from custom fabbed pieces, the more you can get compensated for your R&D time via profit. I think you're on the right track, just realize that this (4th gen f-body) market is only shrinking as cars wear out, get wrecked, and otherwise go bye bye. Also consider reasonable rotors - like Centric and Brembo blanks - as a way to keep costs down without sacrificing quality.

Good luck!
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Thanks for the comments! I'm planning on using Rotora, Powerslot, and possibly Disk Brake Australia (for higher end kits) rotors. The biggest part of development is going to be the bracket design and testing. Getting a good balance is one of my top goals, along with increased stopping power and fade resistance. Once I have the F-Body kit down I also plan to look into Corvette, GTO, and other applications to keep the product selection growing.
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There already is a Wilwood front and rear setup available. 6 piston fronts and 4 piston rears, although it's not cheap with full retail at something like $3400.
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Originally Posted by toadzq8
Diff offset from vette to your F-bod. Yes they are both drum parking brakes but the off set is a lot diff, won't work!
just buy a zo6 size f-body rotor
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too bad wilwood calipers arent that great for road racing with the small pads...
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If it'll clear my Torq Thrust II's im in.
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im in, i LOVE the look of larger brake set ups, 6 and 4. im down



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