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CTS-V Brake Install w/ Pics
#261
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I agree...the brakes would look awesome...but its just not practical on a c-clip axle for any performance driving. If the car is just a cruiser/show car, then its not much of an issue, because there isn't going to be much force exterted on the rear axle. But if you ever intend to take a corner at speed, you will find out very quickly why its not reccommended at all.
As for the MWC rear end, since it a 9", it doesn't have c-clips. The axle bearings are pressed onto the axles and bolted into the housing. Therefore you should be able to run fixed calipers without a problem.
As for the MWC rear end, since it a 9", it doesn't have c-clips. The axle bearings are pressed onto the axles and bolted into the housing. Therefore you should be able to run fixed calipers without a problem.
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Kore3 can make a custom bracket for the cs-v rears to fit on an f-body, they have done it once before. They mate it with a 13" rotor from a c4. But as I mentioned previously, cost is high and they only offer it in a 3-channel. So you can only run parking brake OR TCS, but not both. They do not list it on their website, but I talked with them a few months ago about it, you can email them or call them for more info.
Even with a GP, I doubt Kore3 will drop the price enough to make it attractive to enough ppl who are willing to drop that amount on just brackets, then you would also have to piece together the rest of the system.
Even with a GP, I doubt Kore3 will drop the price enough to make it attractive to enough ppl who are willing to drop that amount on just brackets, then you would also have to piece together the rest of the system.
I don't know exactly how those calipers compare to something like the CTSV rears, but the price isn't bad at all including the parking brake setup.
#267
The thing is I don't have a MWC 9" yet, but I will order one. MWC told me it could be done. I would just have to send the bracket from Kore3 to them when I order the new 9". Instead of myself having to make it fit and going through hassles if it doesn't work after the rear is already in my car. This way everything gets made at the same time and MWC makes sure it all works together.
#269
I read in this thread they quoted someone $50/hour for labor + the cost of the bracket. They have to design one from scratch so who knows what will be at the bottom line.
That's why I was suggesting a group purchase. That way we can all chip in for the "labor" cost and pay for the bracket separately. I'm not sure how to make that work though because as Wesman stated, not all rears will be safe with these brakes even with a bracket.
That's why I was suggesting a group purchase. That way we can all chip in for the "labor" cost and pay for the bracket separately. I'm not sure how to make that work though because as Wesman stated, not all rears will be safe with these brakes even with a bracket.
#273
The 05 cts v brakes in this write up are 4 piston fronts, what about the rear? Are they the same size or smaller calipers?
And the new ctsv coupe has 6 piston brembos up front (gmhtp also installed these on the front of their 4th gen camaro) what size caliper is on the rear of the new coupe ctsv?
What I want to know is, will the clearance be the same for either caliper? Meaning if I have a wheel that clears the old ctsv brembos will they clear the newer larger brembos too?
I'm definitely going with the 6 piston caliper up front btw and I will also have whatever the new coupe ctsv has on the rears as well.
And the new ctsv coupe has 6 piston brembos up front (gmhtp also installed these on the front of their 4th gen camaro) what size caliper is on the rear of the new coupe ctsv?
What I want to know is, will the clearance be the same for either caliper? Meaning if I have a wheel that clears the old ctsv brembos will they clear the newer larger brembos too?
I'm definitely going with the 6 piston caliper up front btw and I will also have whatever the new coupe ctsv has on the rears as well.
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C6 Z06 4-piston rears!
I was just looking through the Jan '11 GMHTP and I saw this article titled "A Lasting Impression". In this article is a 2001 WS6 with C6 Z06 4-piston rear brakes. There is very little mention on the brake conversion but it does state that "he had to do some cutting and machining to the stock brackets, but was able to complete the install in a safe and clean manner". This is very promising and I bet this is possible with the CTS-V brakes, if you so desire, since he was able to do it all himself. I was wondering if anyone knew how to get in touch with or get info on "Christian Garcia" (the owner of the WS6). I would really like to pick his brain and hopefully get some really good information about this from him. I don't know if he would be willing to give out any of the info or would even want to be bothered with it but it would definitely help us all out! Below is a link to the article and they talk about the brakes on the last paragraph on pg 2.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...l_engines.html
It's a B.A. car by the way!
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...l_engines.html
It's a B.A. car by the way!
#275
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Ok someone help me out pls...I need to know what offsets to go with for 19x9 fronts or 19x10 front wheels (can't decide what width to go with on front wheels). Also 19x11 rear wheels! I'm very close to upgrading on all 4 corners. I have to pick the offsets by myself but these wheels are already made to clear bbk as advertised by the manufacturer.
#277
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Ok someone help me out pls...I need to know what offsets to go with for 19x9 fronts or 19x10 front wheels (can't decide what width to go with on front wheels). Also 19x11 rear wheels! I'm very close to upgrading on all 4 corners. I have to pick the offsets by myself but these wheels are already made to clear bbk as advertised by the manufacturer.
Are you going to use these CTS-V calipers? If so, then your gonna have to look at the spoke clearance of the rim you want to use to get the offset you need.
#278
So yours bolt up without spacers? If I went with 19x10 The highest offset is 44. For 19x9 the highest offset is 47
The spoke clearance of the rim I want is 1-5/16" (luckily someone has a set in 50mm offset 19x9). But is that nough clearance to run the new ctsv brakes (6 piston)?
The spoke clearance of the rim I want is 1-5/16" (luckily someone has a set in 50mm offset 19x9). But is that nough clearance to run the new ctsv brakes (6 piston)?
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#279
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I can only say the rims fit the car. I don't have the CTS-V calipers.
I don't think a 60mm offset on a 19x10 would fit.
A 44mm offset pushes the tire out 1/2" more than my 56mm rim.
Here's a pic of my car.
I think you can run that 44mm offset and it will not stick out beyond the fender. BUT, will it clear the caliper you want? I don't know.
I don't think a 60mm offset on a 19x10 would fit.
A 44mm offset pushes the tire out 1/2" more than my 56mm rim.
Here's a pic of my car.
I think you can run that 44mm offset and it will not stick out beyond the fender. BUT, will it clear the caliper you want? I don't know.
#280
That looks pretty damn good with the wide tires up front. I went ahead with the 9" wide wheel and they will work out the offsets to get them to clear the brembo brakes. Can not wait!