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CTS-V Brake Install w/ Pics
06-11-2009, 06:01 PM
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it depends alot on the wheel, read the intro and it will go into it a bit more about offset and such, it has to be an 18 inch rim atleast though. and yes, you have to use a z06 rotor, were using them because they are the correct offset to fit with the new caliper
06-11-2009, 08:06 PM
#29
Hey man, Real nice install. I hope you don't mind, but I used a few of your pics on my write up of this swap. I also decided to change the minimum spoke clearance needed on the stock brakes from 1" to at least 1 1/4". Does that sound about right?
Once you get some shots of the whole car I'll add them to my other thread as well.
Once you get some shots of the whole car I'll add them to my other thread as well.
06-11-2009, 10:27 PM
#30
Well I have 20in wheels and 1 3/8" space from the spokes to the stock caliper. So I was not sure if I would need to replace the stock bolts if I did not need a spacer.
Also I was wondering if a 14in Baer rotor (made to fit a C6 vette) would work rather than the stock Z06 rotor because I already have these rotors on the car, so then the fronts would match the rears...
06-11-2009, 10:36 PM
#31
Well I have 20in wheels and 1 3/8" space from the spokes to the stock caliper. So I was not sure if I would need to replace the stock bolts if I did not need a spacer.
Also I was wondering if a 14in Baer rotor (made to fit a C6 vette) would work rather than the stock Z06 rotor because I already have these rotors on the car, so then the fronts would match the rears...
Also I was wondering if a 14in Baer rotor (made to fit a C6 vette) would work rather than the stock Z06 rotor because I already have these rotors on the car, so then the fronts would match the rears...
If your Baer rotor is made to fit a vette, then I assume it is simply an aftermarket rotor that dimensionally is the same as the OEM C6 Z06 14" rotor. Same size, offset, etc... exactly, just aftermarket.
06-12-2009, 10:14 AM
#33
The front tires are 245/40/18.
Nope. Only reason I had to change wheel studs was to make room for the wheel spacer. If you aren't running wheel spacers (and have sufficient caliper clearance) replacing wheel studs isn't necessary.
Only a 06+ Corvette Z06 rotor will work as far as anyone knows. They are very nice rotors though, quality is great and they say AC Delco "Made in USA" right on the box.
Sounds like it could be close. I had approximately 1" of clearance between my stock caliper and spokes, and I still needed between 1/2" and 5/8" more clearance for the new calipers. The 15mm spacers are between 1/2" (12.7mm) and 5/8" (15.87mm) and they worked out perfectly for clearance. If you find that you need that extra 1/4" of spacing, you can always run a 1/4" or smaller wheel spacer without having to change the wheel studs.
As for the rotors, as Jason said, we would need to know what they were designed to fit If they are 06+ Z06 replacement rotors, then they will work fine.
Only a 06+ Corvette Z06 rotor will work as far as anyone knows. They are very nice rotors though, quality is great and they say AC Delco "Made in USA" right on the box.
Well I have 20in wheels and 1 3/8" space from the spokes to the stock caliper. So I was not sure if I would need to replace the stock bolts if I did not need a spacer.
Also I was wondering if a 14in Baer rotor (made to fit a C6 vette) would work rather than the stock Z06 rotor because I already have these rotors on the car, so then the fronts would match the rears...
Also I was wondering if a 14in Baer rotor (made to fit a C6 vette) would work rather than the stock Z06 rotor because I already have these rotors on the car, so then the fronts would match the rears...
As for the rotors, as Jason said, we would need to know what they were designed to fit If they are 06+ Z06 replacement rotors, then they will work fine.
06-12-2009, 10:22 AM
#35
Hey man, Real nice install. I hope you don't mind, but I used a few of your pics on my write up of this swap. I also decided to change the minimum spoke clearance needed on the stock brakes from 1" to at least 1 1/4". Does that sound about right?
Once you get some shots of the whole car I'll add them to my other thread as well.
Once you get some shots of the whole car I'll add them to my other thread as well.
EDIT: Just saw the thread, looks great
As for the clearance, I ended up needing approximately an additional 9/16" over the 1" that I measured from the stock caliper. With the 15mm wheel spacers, I have a couple mm spoke clearance. So I'd say 14mm, or 9/16", would be bare minimum with a 56mm offset wheel.
I'll get some pics of the whole car as soon as I get a chance, weather out here has been crap the past few weeks unfortunately.
Haven't had a chance to drive the car much (weather) but they seem good. They have about the same pedal feel as the stock brakes around town, I haven't tested them out yet but they seem strong!!
Last edited by Wesmanw02; 06-12-2009 at 10:28 AM.
06-12-2009, 11:27 AM
#36
If you have these Baer rotors on the car, then how did you measure 1 3/8" space from the spokes to the stock caliper? A non stock offset rotor changes the clearance numbers you need. Please explain what you have on the car so we can make sure our info is accurate.
If your Baer rotor is made to fit a vette, then I assume it is simply an aftermarket rotor that dimensionally is the same as the OEM C6 Z06 14" rotor. Same size, offset, etc... exactly, just aftermarket.
If your Baer rotor is made to fit a vette, then I assume it is simply an aftermarket rotor that dimensionally is the same as the OEM C6 Z06 14" rotor. Same size, offset, etc... exactly, just aftermarket.
Sorry, I assumed it would be the same offset since it was just a replacement rotor. I kept the stock calipers but am using the baer eradispeed plus rotors (fronts are still 12in rotors). At the time I needed better rotors, bc I had warped several other brands but only had stock 16in wheels at the time, so I was told I could not go bigger than 12 in.
From their website: (EradiSpeed-PLUS™ rotors are also a direct OEM replacement, however the "plus" indicated rotors that are of a 2-Piece design. An EradiSpeed-PLUS™ hat is CNC machined from billet and anodized black. The hats and rotors are joined with NAS (National Aerospace Standard) hardware. The same hardware used in Indy cars. With a 2-Piece design, EradiSpeed-PLUS™ units provide a welcome reduction in total rotor weight of approximately 3 to 6 lbs. per rotor, depending on application.)
I have similar rotors on the rears, so I was wanting to try and keep the same look all the way around. While on Baer's website, I tried to find a rotor for the 2006 z06, but they only listed 2006 z51. They have an Eradispeed plus 2 rotor (OE replacement but larger diameter and hardware to move the stock caliper out) that is 14in in diameter. I just was not sure if I would be able to use those rotors rather than the stock z06 rotors, just to keep the fronts and rears matching.
The only reason I was wanting to try to keep Baer's cross drilled was because I heard the Z06 are unidirectional, so I thought it might look funny on one side of the car if I had the holes going opposite directions on front compared the the back.
06-12-2009, 12:08 PM
#37
Looks good man! I suspect I would need to do that 15mm spacer as well if I want to run these brakes. At least the front tire still fits within the fender. Wonder if it would be the same on a Camaro.
Based on his tire size there, the diameter is 653.2mm or 25.72". Come on now, that is something we should all know.
Based on his tire size there, the diameter is 653.2mm or 25.72". Come on now, that is something we should all know.
06-12-2009, 01:15 PM
#38
Sorry, I assumed it would be the same offset since it was just a replacement rotor. I kept the stock calipers but am using the baer eradispeed plus rotors (fronts are still 12in rotors). At the time I needed better rotors, bc I had warped several other brands but only had stock 16in wheels at the time, so I was told I could not go bigger than 12 in.
From their website: (EradiSpeed-PLUS™ rotors are also a direct OEM replacement, however the "plus" indicated rotors that are of a 2-Piece design. An EradiSpeed-PLUS™ hat is CNC machined from billet and anodized black. The hats and rotors are joined with NAS (National Aerospace Standard) hardware. The same hardware used in Indy cars. With a 2-Piece design, EradiSpeed-PLUS™ units provide a welcome reduction in total rotor weight of approximately 3 to 6 lbs. per rotor, depending on application.)
I have similar rotors on the rears, so I was wanting to try and keep the same look all the way around. While on Baer's website, I tried to find a rotor for the 2006 z06, but they only listed 2006 z51. They have an Eradispeed plus 2 rotor (OE replacement but larger diameter and hardware to move the stock caliper out) that is 14in in diameter. I just was not sure if I would be able to use those rotors rather than the stock z06 rotors, just to keep the fronts and rears matching.
The only reason I was wanting to try to keep Baer's cross drilled was because I heard the Z06 are unidirectional, so I thought it might look funny on one side of the car if I had the holes going opposite directions on front compared the the back.
From their website: (EradiSpeed-PLUS™ rotors are also a direct OEM replacement, however the "plus" indicated rotors that are of a 2-Piece design. An EradiSpeed-PLUS™ hat is CNC machined from billet and anodized black. The hats and rotors are joined with NAS (National Aerospace Standard) hardware. The same hardware used in Indy cars. With a 2-Piece design, EradiSpeed-PLUS™ units provide a welcome reduction in total rotor weight of approximately 3 to 6 lbs. per rotor, depending on application.)
I have similar rotors on the rears, so I was wanting to try and keep the same look all the way around. While on Baer's website, I tried to find a rotor for the 2006 z06, but they only listed 2006 z51. They have an Eradispeed plus 2 rotor (OE replacement but larger diameter and hardware to move the stock caliper out) that is 14in in diameter. I just was not sure if I would be able to use those rotors rather than the stock z06 rotors, just to keep the fronts and rears matching.
The only reason I was wanting to try to keep Baer's cross drilled was because I heard the Z06 are unidirectional, so I thought it might look funny on one side of the car if I had the holes going opposite directions on front compared the the back.
run DBA 5000 series this is what my bro is going to run on his cts-v caliper setup.
06-12-2009, 01:15 PM
#39
Looks good man! I suspect I would need to do that 15mm spacer as well if I want to run these brakes. At least the front tire still fits within the fender. Wonder if it would be the same on a Camaro.
Based on his tire size there, the diameter is 653.2mm or 25.72". Come on now, that is something we should all know.
Based on his tire size there, the diameter is 653.2mm or 25.72". Come on now, that is something we should all know.
