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Old 08-01-2009, 05:34 AM
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well im going to the track saturday evening and didn't have enough money to get some nittos.. so i was trying to find a way to get rid of all the dam wheel hop i had with street tires..so i boxed my lower control arms, boxed my panhard bar, and replaced all the bushings with energy suspension polyurethane.. let me tell you.. the car is like night and day now.. no more wheel hop what so ever..and only cost 60 bucks in parts..













Old 08-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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Thats sweet. I have lower control arms and I still have wheel hop, hate it. Ill look into doing the panhard bar like what you did.
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ya it helped alot for the track.. and the street.. my rear end is alot more solid now..
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Get ready to break your 10-bolt with a boxed PHB...
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Nice work Highway.
I have been thinking of doing exactly that, as shipping these parts to the UK is Super expensive. If only I had a structural welder....

I have put poly bushings in the PHR and rear LCA, and I thought it felt better.
I also put bolts and spacers in the holes of the LCA, to help stop a bit of flex. Seems to work okay, although it does squeak a bit at times.

Poly swaybar mounts and endlinks are well worth doing if you don't intend to swap them too

Not sure why boxed will break the rear end though??
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Nice work their buddy, should paint it black so it dont look cheap.
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Originally Posted by TireSm0ke
Get ready to break your 10-bolt with a boxed PHB...
wheel hop is a LOT more hazardous to it's health than a boxed phb will ever be
Old 08-02-2009, 01:15 PM
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Nice job
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Dude seriously, buy yourself a metal work bench! LOL!

Very nice welds, and it didn't look easy doing that while resting on one arm. Now you just need to send them to silverghost (the powder pro) to get them powder coated.
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Nice work, I like mods like this.
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Originally Posted by TireSm0ke
Get ready to break your 10-bolt with a boxed PHB...
well i thought the pan hard bar was for side to side play in cornering.. don't see how it will break it b4 wheel hop, cause my wheel hop was unbearable b4 i did these mods.
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Originally Posted by taws6
Nice work Highway.
I have been thinking of doing exactly that, as shipping these parts to the UK is Super expensive. If only I had a structural welder....

I have put poly bushings in the PHR and rear LCA, and I thought it felt better.
I also put bolts and spacers in the holes of the LCA, to help stop a bit of flex. Seems to work okay, although it does squeak a bit at times.

Poly swaybar mounts and endlinks are well worth doing if you don't intend to swap them too

Not sure why boxed will break the rear end though??
ya man im all about doing my own work.. and on a budget boxing my own lca's seemed like a deal lol.. just get some plates like i did and find a descent welder in your area, will help tons with wheel hop.. i guarantee it!! im doing the rear sway bar bushings and putting lca's relocation kit on as well... so should be 100% done with the hopity hop..and you have a ls1 in the UK? sweet!! i always wanted a Ford Escort Cosworth, one can only dream :-(
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very cool
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thanks again guys for all the positive feed back!!
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LOL...nice!!!
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If the boxed LCA and PHR are that good, I'm defo gonna get mine boxed, just need to find a local welder.

i always wanted a Ford Escort Cosworth
Never been in a Cosi, but my dad has 2 Ford Seria XR4i's, and had an Escort Turbo, and they all pull like a MF!! A cosi in good condition still fetches really high money, almost as much as when they were new....
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Looks good, can this be done to the upper pan hard bar?
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what materials did you use ? angle iron or just regular steel cause my car is not so much with the wheel hop just when doing a burnout my rear slams into my bump stops....i think its from all that flex of everything ....let me know what type of stuff you used cause i am down to do mine!!!!!!GREAT WORK LOOKS AWESOME!!!!
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Originally Posted by TireSm0ke
Get ready to break your 10-bolt with a boxed PHB...
Anyone want to explain this to me. Why would any kind of panhard bar for that matter have an effect on breaking a 10 bolt? Even though I am only using mine for gear testing right now I run the *** off my 10 bolt and have Burkhardt 4340 lca's and panhard. Something that corrects geometry and eliminates deflection allowed by stock stamped parts doesn't increase component failure.
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good work...just remember poly will make those LCAs and PHB bind in fast transitions, like AX or RR. Probably works really well for drag though!

just an observation, but if you were seeing wheel hop on street tires, On street tires I doubt you have enough grip to actually flex the LCAs....however bushings were probably deflecting alot.

you wont fully know how well the boxed LCAs work until you get sticker tires.

With the streets a simple bushing change would of netted you the same results. Does it help you did all the work, well hell yes of course! Again just my 2 cents.

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