Strut-Tower Brace?
07-27-2010, 08:25 PM
#42
keep in mind that although the STB may or may not provide much (if any) actual handling performance, it should at the very least help keep the bottom-rear portion of the front fenders (the part in between the front wheels and the start of the doors) from popping out over time and keep them properly aligned. that alone is worth the price of the bar, IMO.....especially if you drive on really bumpy roads a lot.
07-27-2010, 09:08 PM
#43
keep in mind that although the STB may or may not provide much (if any) actual handling performance, it should at the very least help keep the bottom-rear portion of the front fenders (the part in between the front wheels and the start of the doors) from popping out over time and keep them properly aligned. that alone is worth the price of the bar, IMO.....especially if you drive on really bumpy roads a lot.
Lift arms align perfectly with the lower fender mounts and bend them flat, causing the lower section of the fender to bow out.
If yours is like that, check the lower fender attachment points. I bet they are bent flat with the bottom of the car. You'll see the bolt heads against the floor pan and the ends of bolts hanging straight down.
The solution is pound them back vertical and the bow should disappear.
I just took a picture of the Camaro currently on my lift and you can clearly see that if the arm is placed too far forward, it will contact and bend that mounting tab.
http://www.lawmotorsports.net/FCarJackPointPF.jpg
It's a common issue when tires are being replaced.
07-27-2010, 09:08 PM
#44
keep in mind that although the STB may or may not provide much (if any) actual handling performance, it should at the very least help keep the bottom-rear portion of the front fenders (the part in between the front wheels and the start of the doors) from popping out over time and keep them properly aligned. that alone is worth the price of the bar, IMO.....especially if you drive on really bumpy roads a lot.
07-29-2010, 12:59 PM
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Looks like this debate is STILL going on. So far, BMR is the only one to post any sort of actual number for measured deflection. Not sure how you guys did it, but why couldn't someone just make a small test rig and post some TRUE test data? It'd be simple:
All you'd need would be a "sliding" STB. One that was designed as a sort of telescoping bar. You'd mark the bar with either paint, chalk, or whatever, then go drive the damn car. You come back, open the hood, and see if there was a mark made from the bar expanding/contracting over the other side. If there is a mark then, yes, an STB will help, if no marks are seen, then there's no reason to buy one. Post the results, and the whole website profits....
All you'd need would be a "sliding" STB. One that was designed as a sort of telescoping bar. You'd mark the bar with either paint, chalk, or whatever, then go drive the damn car. You come back, open the hood, and see if there was a mark made from the bar expanding/contracting over the other side. If there is a mark then, yes, an STB will help, if no marks are seen, then there's no reason to buy one. Post the results, and the whole website profits....
07-29-2010, 02:20 PM
#53
Looks like this debate is STILL going on. So far, BMR is the only one to post any sort of actual number for measured deflection. Not sure how you guys did it, but why couldn't someone just make a small test rig and post some TRUE test data? It'd be simple:
All you'd need would be a "sliding" STB. One that was designed as a sort of telescoping bar. You'd mark the bar with either paint, chalk, or whatever, then go drive the damn car. You come back, open the hood, and see if there was a mark made from the bar expanding/contracting over the other side. If there is a mark then, yes, an STB will help, if no marks are seen, then there's no reason to buy one. Post the results, and the whole website profits....
All you'd need would be a "sliding" STB. One that was designed as a sort of telescoping bar. You'd mark the bar with either paint, chalk, or whatever, then go drive the damn car. You come back, open the hood, and see if there was a mark made from the bar expanding/contracting over the other side. If there is a mark then, yes, an STB will help, if no marks are seen, then there's no reason to buy one. Post the results, and the whole website profits....
http://community.discovery.com/eve/f...m/f/2991937776
07-29-2010, 02:44 PM
#54
The new debate is how much better the STB is when CUSTOMIZED?! 
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=192
http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/...roducts_id=192
We actually just make ours bit thicker. Our builder/fab tech used to race NASCAR and says these do "somewhat" perform a function. (but I think he might means racing on streets, not straight line) I personally dont think they do too much, and I've had mine on almost a year now. But they sure do looks sweet, lol.
Actually in the case of a side front impact it might really help....
And if you were gonna get one, why not a custom one, right?
07-29-2010, 04:14 PM
#56
Can't see it in the pics but we angle the plate slightly as well to add to the multi-angle strength.
All of our stuff like this is fabricated by CMJ Racing who have been doing suspension, body, etc... fabrication for race cars for years so they do not let anything dangerous come out of their shop. Most of the stuff is WAY over engineered...
Here's some pics after I powdered it...
07-29-2010, 06:42 PM
#57
If you were to hit from head on, maybe. The physics are from the sides and the plate and the welds (we WAY over weld this bad boy) are way stronger than the bar it is attached to...
Can't see it in the pics but we angle the plate slightly as well to add to the multi-angle strength.
All of our stuff like this is fabricated by CMJ Racing who have been doing suspension, body, etc... fabrication for race cars for years so they do not let anything dangerous come out of their shop. Most of the stuff is WAY over engineered...
Here's some pics after I powdered it...
Can't see it in the pics but we angle the plate slightly as well to add to the multi-angle strength.
All of our stuff like this is fabricated by CMJ Racing who have been doing suspension, body, etc... fabrication for race cars for years so they do not let anything dangerous come out of their shop. Most of the stuff is WAY over engineered...
Here's some pics after I powdered it...
07-30-2010, 09:05 AM
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For all I know this was already done..
07-30-2010, 10:19 AM
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get one! they definitely make a difference when doing hard cornering at speed. If your drag racing don't think you'll need em. They prevent tower deflection -Keeps the front tires planted & tighten up the front end. Not and expensive item IMO.
08-05-2010, 05:04 PM
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has anyone built one that triangulates the STB it to the firewall? that would make it wayy stiffer .. i know it would be difficult to do because the firewall is so far back but i am jw.