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Old 11-10-2010, 10:16 PM
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what are good components for either??
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Do you want the rear to be able to break loose or do you want the car to handle? If you want the car to handle, it's mostly the shocks. I'd pick at least Bilstein or KYB AGX's for shocks, or Koni's if money allows if you want the car the handle good. There are a lot of other things you can add on if you want your car to handle good for auto-x'ing. A search would help you if you want things to handle well.
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some super duper yellow springs and special shocks imported directly from japan, will get u going.....tokyo drift style gil..
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6r
Do you want the rear to be able to break loose or do you want the car to handle? If you want the car to handle, it's mostly the shocks. I'd pick at least Bilstein or KYB AGX's for shocks, or Koni's if money allows if you want the car the handle good. There are a lot of other things you can add on if you want your car to handle good for auto-x'ing. A search would help you if you want things to handle well.
for springs i will be doing stranos... and shocks was thinkin kyb agx's

what else would i need
i already have

UMI tubulas on car adjustable

LCA
PHR

and UMI SFC and also relo brackets

to answer your initial q, i guess i want it to kick out

for breaks i have d/s rotors, vette upgrade upfront, and steal braided lines
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The hell Gil?
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Originally Posted by Raptor_WS6
for springs i will be doing stranos... and shocks was thinkin kyb agx's

what else would i need
i already have

UMI tubulas on car adjustable

LCA
PHR

and UMI SFC and also relo brackets

to answer your initial q, i guess i want it to kick out

for breaks i have d/s rotors, vette upgrade upfront, and steal braided lines
Drift cars actually are not setup to be loose. They are usually pretty tight, similar to what I run for autox because when you are all crossed up you need to be able to control it, not just spin around. You have a lot of power, that should mean you can get get oversteer--the trick is controlling that power and the car's behavior, and for that you want a stable platform.

An autox setup (something I do a lot) will help you a lot with that since we want balance, but not at the cost of having a loose car. I customer of mine would drift his car (stock power) on street tires (not anything fancy) and can hang it out pretty well--and he's got my setup on the car. One thing I can't help you with is steering angle.... you need more of it, F-bodies don't have a ton of it, and I'm not sure how you can get it.
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Originally Posted by Raptor_WS6
for springs i will be doing stranos... and shocks was thinkin kyb agx's
Get better shocks, something that adjust rebound and compression with the same **** isn't going to be great for dialing in suspension.

what else would i need
i already have

UMI tubulas on car adjustable

LCA
PHR

and UMI SFC and also relo brackets
Dont need LCAs, relocation brackets, or SFCs.
Don't just throw parts at the car for the sake of doing it. Get in the car, drive it and learn what you want to change and need to change it.
To start you off good shocks will make a big difference.

to answer your initial q, i guess i want it to kick out
You can do this with throttle, weight transfer or ebake, you don't necessarily want the car to just kick out all of a sudden, you want it to be controlled and easy to control.

for breaks i have d/s rotors, vette upgrade upfront, and steal braided lines
Drilled and slotted brakes will do nothing for you except possibly crack.
Use search, there have been threads for this and there are members who drift their 4th gens and 3rd gens.
And Sam is right about the steering angle, 4th gens don't have enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNHnE_m0Vo
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the suspension was done to center my rear end and get rid of wheel hop... granted i think shocks would fix that also no?



SAM, what is your set up?



and as the steering angle goes, i remember before, a company made a yellow drift gto that they modified the angle somehow, but cant find the article
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My setup is pretty well known...

Koni shocks, Strano springs and bars. Fays2 Watts link, Auburn Racer's differential, custom offset bushings in the front upper control arms, 1LE style rear control arm bushings.... Other stuff on the brakes, engine, exhaust, etc... but the suspension is what you are wondering about I think.
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yes the suspension i what i was wondering...
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Originally Posted by Raptor_WS6
the suspension was done to center my rear end and get rid of wheel hop... granted i think shocks would fix that also no?
And they may hurt your handling.
Shocks could fix wheel hop, but it depends on whats causing it in the first place.


and as the steering angle goes, i remember before, a company made a yellow drift gto that they modified the angle somehow, but cant find the article
GTO's are not fbodies and share no suspension parts or design, very different setup then us.
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So does anyone know how to get more steering angle? Its been a little while since I have looked over the front end, but I'm sure its not something as simple as modifying a steering stop.

The vid of the LS1 car drifting is badass, he slipped up a couple times but its still way better than watching some imports drift
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I'm no engineer but wouldn't moving the steering endlink closer to the pivot point of the spindle create more steering angle and quicker steering?
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It seems that it would create a larger angle and quicker steering, but having less leverage on your wheel seems like it would stress your steering system a lot more.
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Right but unless you can somehow get more side to side motion out of the rack and pinion it's one of those things were you have to give a little to get a little. In this case more angle but less leverage.
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You'll definitely need a watts link.



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