rich Z

I have bilteins hd in the rear and the ride is getting more and more harsh. Also getting some mild wheel hop. The shocks have probable 60- 70k miles on them. Should I look into a warranty claim with bilstein or just order some new one's?

Nowhereman

It's getting time to change em out.
Be sure to check all your rear suspension pieces also.
You would be surprised on what is getting old and binding also.
Don't count out the springs specially if they are variable rate pieces.
Stick with straight wound springs.

BMR Tech2

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According to Bilstein, if the shock itself is still sealed, they do not need to be replaced. Bilstein told us that the shocks start to leak when they are worn. At your mileage I would expect them to have seen better days. haha They can be rebuilt for about $40-50 a shock and possibly under warranty.

- Kevin

LS1121

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Ha Ha that's funny all that money. That's why I use Monroe. Just replaced mine and I love it!! Guaranteed for LIFE! Will replace Free when they wear out.

JD_AMG

Funny you spent all that money on an LS1 Camaro when you could have just bought a Caviler, all chevys are the same right?

bad_408_vert

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^ HAHA the laugh of the day!

LS2Ttype

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My 03 S-10 with sport package came with Bilstien shocks, at around 100,000 miles 3 were blown and leaking, i would have sent them out for rebuilding i didnt know they could be rebuilt

LS1121

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No... but when I can get shocks that are Made in America by Americans that have a real smooth, not stiff ride, for half the price and will get Free replacements as long as i own the car, that's hard to beat. I understand many of you guys are brainwashed into bilstiens but there are Other Good options also. It seems whever someone goes against what some people believe her then you are "stupid" well sorry guy's Monroe has been around a long time and does have a Good product also.

Carlos01SS

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This is the second thread I've read where you're bringing up the "buy American" comment and you have no experience with the other shocks, correct?

you claim that you have a real smooth not stiff ride...compared to what, the factory decarbons?

Have you ever had anything other than the factory decarbons or Monroe Sensatracs in your car?

I'm pretty sure you have already stated that you havent so truly you have limited experience with anything other than Monroe's on your car, correct?

I've had the factory decarbons, Tokiko's, KYB/AGX's and Bilstein's and Koni's and your Monroe's provide limited performance potential and inferior craftmanship for our 4th-gens, this has been proven and has been brought up countless numbers of times on this website.

I don't know what you are trying to prove at this point but this "made in the USA" stuff is relevant to you and that's fine, it's not that important for others on this website nor is it pertinent to this topic at hand, the OP is asking about his Bilstein's.

So the Monroe's are cheap, that's great for you.

Performance-wise the Monroe's for 4th-gens are far from ideal.

To the OP, if you don't care about performance or handling characteristics and you do not push your car at all AND if you want to get cheaply made shocks for cheap AND have a lifetime warranty then I guess this guy's recommendations for Monroes are GREAT!

TruBloodTransAm

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Pretty sure your Camaro was made in Canada...

Dummybait

Oh God...here we go again.... ----Round 2 ding ding ding

Sorry OP...your question may never be answered....

fbodlovr

Rich, is your car lowered? Have you tried calling Bilstein and asked how the warranty process works? If they will fix/replace them at no cost to you, then I would do that. I'm all about pinching pennies though. If I can get around spending money, I will. lol

If they want you to send in the shocks, and your basically out of a car until they get back, then I would just get new ones. I would call and talk to them.

Sam Strano

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Oh boy, here we go again.

First, it's untrue that if the shock is not leaking it's fine. That's like saying if you didn't kick a rod out of the block the engine isn't blown up. Internal parts can fail. Seals wear, valves wear, oil breaks down, etc.

Second, they are likely not going to be warrantied, because everything wears. Worn out and/or busted and is different than worn. Again, think engines, one with mileage will likely not be as tight as a new one, but not ready for the trash either. If you were to put those on a car with 60k deCarbon's I bet that guy would say "wow"!

If there is nothing broken they won't cover them. Hell, they don't cover bushings coming out of the lower shock eye on some trucks (wear and tear).

***BTW, this is exactly the reason right here that I don't think Bilstein's are the best answer for lowering springs. The spring rate and drop both require more rebound control than a taller, softer spring like a stock one.***

I digress. As for Mr. Flagpole up his ***, 60k miles Bilstein's will still have more control than 600 mile Monroes on this car. And what's funny is that jackass seems to miss the fact I use Monroe in other vehicles. In fact in trucks I'm turning to their Reflex more and more from Bilstein's. But that is a whole different kettle of fish and he does not seem interested in the fact I have done that, or why because it does not fit his argument (if you can call it that) here.

Azar_Hawke

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I think that's the hardest I've laughed all day, thank you Sam. Really, LS1121, just quit. Monroe shocks are good in some cars but simply not good in others. The f-body is a car it simply is not good in.

z28bryan

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You like the Monroe's because it's personal preference, which doesn't make you wrong. Everyone has their own personal opinion. I don't know the difference because I've never compared. But your reasoning is that Monroe's are awesome shocks because you're personally satisfied with the ride quality compared to stock is not legitimate. There's other factors in there like the shock type, valving, build quality, etc that people should look at before making their decision, don't you think? Your opinion is fine, everyone is entitled to it.. but your really pushing the idea that Monroe's are like the same thing as Bilstiens and from the homework I've done in the recent past, I believe this is definitely not the case. This is why your getting so crap from people

As you can see you've bought a ton of things not made in America so your technically making yourself look like a hypocrit. Did you miss all those posts?

z28bryan

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I'm quoting this just in case he missed it..

z28bryan

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Do you have stock springs or aftermarket?

JD_AMG

You can get a 'Merikan made Cavalier for half the price of a canadian made Fbody, both have 4 wheels and get you from A to B, so whats the difference right?

Irony right there, someone with drilled rotors calling someone else "brainwashed", especially when some of those people have tried all the different shocks in question, and still come to the same conclusion that the Sensatracs are total ****. Monroe makes some decent shocks, just not for our cars.
Just in case you missed it from the other thread:

SuperSport01

I have no problem with using Monroe... on an old DD or something of the like. But a performance car needs better shocks like Bilstein or Koni. I have Monroes on my old 95 Silverado because its a DD and is very non performance. lol