ugh... updated 1le bushing info please...
07-31-2014, 11:21 PM
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ugh... updated 1le bushing info please... Hello all, I have been searching and i am finding all kinds of conflicting info. my questions are;
can I still get the 1le bushings (front end more so than back)
if so which 1s are available
what are the part #s of the bushings?
I am asking these questions because the stock bushings in my 02 ws6 are shot, the fronts especially. and after some research from my understanding the poly bushings (only set i can find is energy suspension) tend to bind, so the best solution would be a hardened rubber(1le) bushing? If i am misinformed please enlighten me. either way please help...
thanks in advance
Bruce
can I still get the 1le bushings (front end more so than back)
if so which 1s are available
what are the part #s of the bushings?
I am asking these questions because the stock bushings in my 02 ws6 are shot, the fronts especially. and after some research from my understanding the poly bushings (only set i can find is energy suspension) tend to bind, so the best solution would be a hardened rubber(1le) bushing? If i am misinformed please enlighten me. either way please help...
thanks in advance
Bruce
08-01-2014, 11:04 AM
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When I converted my stock 18mm rear sway bar to a 1LE 21mm rear sway bar,the rubber bushings(that are used at the rearend housing)that came with the bar had the same number on them as the ones I was removing with the stock Z28 rear sway bar. Since then and because of that,I'm assuming that Z28s'(and WS6s')get the 1LE rubber bushings but not the 1LE bars.
I'm currently running poly on front,rear,LCA,and panhard.
I'm currently running poly on front,rear,LCA,and panhard.
08-01-2014, 11:23 AM
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The only places poly bushings are not acceptable is the front LCA caster bushing, and the rear LCA's. The poly bushing will bind in those locations. The Moog bushings are more than adequate, and are similar in construction to the 1LE bushings. Moog is also manufacturing a new style castor bushing that is more like a spherical bearing but with a rubber lining, similar to the "poly *****" you see in some LCA's. Those are worth checking out also.
08-01-2014, 08:53 PM
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Moog problem solver K200790 should be the one for the lower control arm vertical bushing. Pretty much the perfect option for nearly zero deflection, zero bind, and long life with it being properly sealed.
08-15-2014, 10:25 PM
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Here's the big kit (however I don't believe this includes the problem solver vertical bushing versions):
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=18&ModelID=7
I am not certain the front items are identical to the 1LE stuff, the rear LCA bushings are though for certain.
You don't want poly on your LCAs due to lack of articulation, there have been many posts about this in the past.
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=18&ModelID=7
I am not certain the front items are identical to the 1LE stuff, the rear LCA bushings are though for certain.
You don't want poly on your LCAs due to lack of articulation, there have been many posts about this in the past.
Last edited by libertyforall1776; 09-27-2014 at 07:20 PM. Reason: update
08-15-2014, 10:38 PM
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Moog bushing details: http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/moo...ings_Sheet.pdf
Moog Vertical Control Arm Bushing Failure Problem Solver Bulletin 213014:
http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/_pd...failure_EN.pdf
Video:
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/e1/ud...rm-Bushing.mp4
Moog Vertical Control Arm Bushing Failure Problem Solver Bulletin 213014:
http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/_pd...failure_EN.pdf
Video:
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/e1/ud...rm-Bushing.mp4
Last edited by libertyforall1776; 09-13-2014 at 07:56 PM. Reason: Video link add
08-17-2014, 11:59 AM
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moog bushing details: http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/moo...ings_sheet.pdf
moog vertical control arm bushing failure problem solver bulletin 213014:
http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/_pd...failure_en.pdf
moog vertical control arm bushing failure problem solver bulletin 213014:
http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/_pd...failure_en.pdf
09-27-2014, 10:04 PM
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Well I just ordered the 2 Moog K6462 upper ball joint's to see how they feel before I replace anything else. I have no problems with my set up now, but just trying to replace things before they wear out.
10-05-2014, 08:57 AM
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I did the switch to the PS Moogs and I guess its kinda hard to say I noticed a difference in the feel of the car based on the bushings alone. I replaced pretty much every bushing and joint in the front end along with the rack.....so yes, I notice a difference obviously with 150k miles on all the old stuff, I should....but I honestly cant say I can feel the effects of the bushings alone. Not saying they aren't better in design and quality, because when you hold them in your hand side by side, the superiority of the PS is evident. I was unable to get LCA bushings for the front position alone...had to buy the stock replacements for the front and rears as a kit, (2 per side)...in addition I had to purchase the PS Moogs....Reasonable though at $22./ea I feel it was worth doing.