smitty2919

Fixed for generalization that will apply to 80% of the people swapping out to new suspension.


IMO there is nothing worse than modifying a car with no "goals" in mind. It's money down the drain. Having a plan for better handling/better ride quality/better drag car is the start. Then you research and modify the car accordingly to get you to your goals that fits your budget.

BMR Sales2

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That's why I pointed out the difference in the 2 lines of shocks. I think a lot of what is being compared here are the Warrior series being paired with a more aggressive spring and the adjustments being run tighter. The Crusaders are a complete custom revalve for your application. May not be on the level of a high end Penske or Afco, but they are a good step in the right direction at an entry level price

jeff morgan

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I currently have a strano/ koni setup on the car and don't like the stance. I did not get the drop on the front that I expected. I am just looking for the adjustability of the coil over to get the stance that I want. Viking and QA1 seem to be the most affordable/popular. I have QA1 coilovers on my 67 camaro twin turbo drag/street car. I only wanted opinions on what is available. I have a set of QA1 with a 325 spring and a set of Viking with a 350 spring that should arrive tomorrow. I only want to use 1 set and the other will be returned. Just looking for opinions on which coilover may be better.

79_T/A

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You know you could have sleeved the front Koni shocks and turned them into coil-overs for way less than buying QA1 or Viking shocks, right? You would also get to keep your great ride and handling.

blackandgold

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Do you have any pictures of the car with your strano springs on the lower perch? If you already have strano/koni, I don't see a reason to change.

JD_AMG

You are wrong again.
This is the typical drag guy response, they all think that the differences will only be seen when driving at the limit, but I can't blame them because they have nothing to compare to.
You will notice a difference in pretty much all situations while the car is moving, on the street or on a track, driving like a grandma or like a madman, the car will still feel different and behave differently.
I don't disagree with you here. However he could have the car riding and all around feeling much better with a good shock and spring combo.

For those who have nothing else to compare to, yes they will be naively happy, just like the guys driving the V6 fbodies thinking that they are "plenty fast" without ever experiencing the V8.
Even if I never planned on auto-xing I would still be buying Koni SA's (or a even higher end shock) because they make the car drive SO good, and feel like a BMW. I don't see the point in spending the money on drag shocks to have the car drive and feel poorly in comparison unless I was going for absolutely every last tenth of a second in the 1/4 mile on a single digit car, as konis have been 1.5 second 60fts and im sure could go better if they tried.

Sure because the fbody and mustang have a large enough aftermarket that they get good shocks, while the other less popular muscle cars don't have anything else for handling unless they want to spend big money on something totally custom, so they settle with something like the vikings just like they did with QA1s when they were the flavor of the month.
Im not knocking vikings at all here, Im just calling a duck a duck when I see one.

01ssreda4

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Well all that being said id like to try those handling setups out. For comparison sake.

blackandgold

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^^ let me know if you're up in the Omaha area, I'm a crap driver, but happy to take you out on the umi/strano coilovers.

blackandgold

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Also for those running Vikings on the streets I'm curious what your alignment specs are?

smitty2919

Man makes a good point.

UMI Sales

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Just throwing this out there for you street guys....

I'm currently working on some Afco/UMI valved Monotube gas charged non adj. shocks.

Hopefully after testing is complete we will have a gas charged, affordable shock that can be used as coil-overs(with our brackets) or just superior street shocks.

Craig

n2oblkz

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I'm in the same boat as Jeff Morgan with the exact setup as him and don't like the front end height of the Strano's. Before I drop $600 on front coil overs, can you explain more on this and share the products available for turning a Koni into a front coil over?

Thanks

blackandgold

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Ground control coilover conversion kit. You get to keep your nice konis and add adjustability and you get to specify your spring rate all for about $400. I can't post a link since they aren't a sponsor.

n2oblkz

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Ok, I'll check into them. Thanks

79_T/A

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You can do it for a lot less using common circle track parts. Have to see if I can find a parts list.

n2oblkz

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That'd be great, thanks

jeff morgan

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Viking coilovers installed. Got the ride height and ride I wanted.