Dumb question about adj. tq arm...
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Dumb question about tq arm angle finder...
Okay, this might be a dumb question BUT my angle finder does not tell me which is which. What side is the negative side when its setting on the rear-end? This is the way it is when setting on the rear end. Is the way I have the pos/neg correct when upside down?
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When you are viewing the rearend from the driverside of the car and have the angle finder facing you, looking at the top of the angle finder, to the left of zero is negative meaning the driveshaft is running down from the transmission.
When you take an put the angle finder on the rearend viewing it from the driverside of the car looking at the top of the angle finder, to the right of zero is negative meaning the rearend is pointing down. Hope this clears it up a little for you.
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When you take an put the angle finder on the rearend viewing it from the driverside of the car looking at the top of the angle finder, to the right of zero is negative meaning the rearend is pointing down. Hope this clears it up a little for you.
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Doesnt matter
Adjust so that the needle points to the exact same spot when you put it on the DS as when you put it on the pinion. Then you'll have the ideal (for street car) 0* pinion angle
If you Feel that you'll actually go severely positive under launch (unless you're a serious drag racer this wont happen) and you must go negative.. just figure out which way turning the adjuster causes the pinion to move down- you can tell by looking- and turn the adjuster and check the measurement until there are 2 marks(or however many degrees you want) difference between them.
Adjust so that the needle points to the exact same spot when you put it on the DS as when you put it on the pinion. Then you'll have the ideal (for street car) 0* pinion angle
If you Feel that you'll actually go severely positive under launch (unless you're a serious drag racer this wont happen) and you must go negative.. just figure out which way turning the adjuster causes the pinion to move down- you can tell by looking- and turn the adjuster and check the measurement until there are 2 marks(or however many degrees you want) difference between them.
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Ok here's a question. I installed a Spohn TA and did the angle and mine is set at -2.5, which the guy told me was the right setting. I have noticed since then I get a horrible groaning (the best way I can describe it) once I reach around 70mph. I'm thinking the pinion angle is off? Any suggestions Lee? I'm soon going to be getting rid of this TA for a BMR with the relocation bracket. Since my car is lowered and I have speed bumps, they just installed, on my street, I need something that isn't so low. I'll be posting that once the BMR one is in.
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because a negative pinion angle isnt for street driving. theres no need to have anything other than 0* for a street car.
A dedicated track car... maybe you might go with a negative pinion angle, but thats it
A negative pinion angle on a street car wears out the pinion and generates noise
A dedicated track car... maybe you might go with a negative pinion angle, but thats it
A negative pinion angle on a street car wears out the pinion and generates noise
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Originally Posted by SS1156
Ok here's a question. I installed a Spohn TA and did the angle and mine is set at -2.5, which the guy told me was the right setting. I have noticed since then I get a horrible groaning (the best way I can describe it) once I reach around 70mph. I'm thinking the pinion angle is off? Any suggestions Lee? I'm soon going to be getting rid of this TA for a BMR with the relocation bracket. Since my car is lowered and I have speed bumps, they just installed, on my street, I need something that isn't so low. I'll be posting that once the BMR one is in.
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Originally Posted by OldeSkool
because a negative pinion angle isnt for street driving. theres no need to have anything other than 0* for a street car.
A dedicated track car... maybe you might go with a negative pinion angle, but thats it
A negative pinion angle on a street car wears out the pinion and generates noise
A dedicated track car... maybe you might go with a negative pinion angle, but thats it
A negative pinion angle on a street car wears out the pinion and generates noise
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Im confused but ill listen to the man that works at BMR lol. My car just vibrates and I get a horrible groaning like said above around 70mph. What I also dont understand is I put a stock 10 bolt back in my car so I set my adj. LCA's to stock length but my rear end sets way back towards the rear bumper. Im just tired of working on my car, I wish I had an LS1tech style speed shop near my house. I would just drop it off and let them **** with it. I like my cobalt, it drives good everyday and never breaks lol.
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An absolute zero degree angle on the u-joints doesn't allow the needles to rotate in the cups and they will eventuallt flat spot and fail. It takes very little angle to make them rotate properly but no angle difference at all I don't recommend.
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Originally Posted by Stangkilr
Im confused but ill listen to the man that works at BMR lol. My car just vibrates and I get a horrible groaning like said above around 70mph. What I also dont understand is I put a stock 10 bolt back in my car so I set my adj. LCA's to stock length but my rear end sets way back towards the rear bumper. Im just tired of working on my car, I wish I had an LS1tech style speed shop near my house. I would just drop it off and let them **** with it. I like my cobalt, it drives good everyday and never breaks lol.
I also agree with Lee on the 0 pinion angle. I lost a DS some time ago and I believe it was due to having zero pinion angle.
The Cobalt is fun and won't leave you stranded but its just not that fast now is it?
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If they are adjustable LCAs then just adjust them to center the tire in the wheelwell.
I also agree with Lee on the 0 pinion angle. I lost a DS some time ago and I believe it was due to having zero pinion angle.
The Cobalt is fun and won't leave you stranded but its just not that fast now is it?
I also agree with Lee on the 0 pinion angle. I lost a DS some time ago and I believe it was due to having zero pinion angle.
The Cobalt is fun and won't leave you stranded but its just not that fast now is it?
They should be adjusted on an alignment rack to make sure that your thrust angle isnt off. Even stock cars are known to have thrust angles that are wildly off.
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That would suck.
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center the wheel in the passenger side wheel well and then adjust the other LCA so that the axle is square in the car (0 thrust angle) and if the passenger side isn't at least reasonably close to being centered as well.. then something is wrong with the car.