Strano springs, Koni 4/4 pics
10-28-2007, 04:31 PM
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Strano springs, Koni 4/4 pics Just installed:
Fel Pro oil pan gasket
new oil pump
UMI k-member
Poly motor mounts
UMI front lower control arms
Strano 35mm front sway
Strano springs
Koni 4/4 on lower front perch in front, rubber isolator in back
It has a nice raked look but is a little low in the front. The alignment is WAY off. The alignment shop is going to LOVE me!!
Fel Pro oil pan gasket
new oil pump
UMI k-member
Poly motor mounts
UMI front lower control arms
Strano 35mm front sway
Strano springs
Koni 4/4 on lower front perch in front, rubber isolator in back
It has a nice raked look but is a little low in the front. The alignment is WAY off. The alignment shop is going to LOVE me!!
Last edited by InsaneAuto86; 10-28-2007 at 04:38 PM.
10-29-2007, 12:14 PM
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Well, there's the problem. The springs weren't designed to run the lower perch.... move it back up before the alignment (so you don't have to re, re-align the car). It'll take care of the front being a little low, and ride and handle better too.
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10-29-2007, 01:11 PM
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Not too many problems with the install either. The springs arrived half-way out of the box and were scratched up pretty good. I just sanded the rough stuff down and sprayed them with rustoleum. The bolt for the front sway bar end link was bent bad. I do not know how a grade 8 bolt can bend?
Also after installing everything I took it for a quick drive around the neighborhood and the steering seems a bit messed up. I know the alignment is off but it feels like the tires are rubbing something when trying to turn. When I turn I feel about 4 consecutive rubs before I can completely turn. Any ideas?
10-29-2007, 01:32 PM
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I know what you're saying but I love the way it looks.
Not too many problems with the install either. The springs arrived half-way out of the box and were scratched up pretty good. I just sanded the rough stuff down and sprayed them with rustoleum. The bolt for the front sway bar end link was bent bad. I do not know how a grade 8 bolt can bend?
Also after installing everything I took it for a quick drive around the neighborhood and the steering seems a bit messed up. I know the alignment is off but it feels like the tires are rubbing something when trying to turn. When I turn I feel about 4 consecutive rubs before I can completely turn. Any ideas?
Not too many problems with the install either. The springs arrived half-way out of the box and were scratched up pretty good. I just sanded the rough stuff down and sprayed them with rustoleum. The bolt for the front sway bar end link was bent bad. I do not know how a grade 8 bolt can bend?
Also after installing everything I took it for a quick drive around the neighborhood and the steering seems a bit messed up. I know the alignment is off but it feels like the tires are rubbing something when trying to turn. When I turn I feel about 4 consecutive rubs before I can completely turn. Any ideas?
10-29-2007, 01:36 PM
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The alignment will be way off from the lowering, and you went further than normal. I have to strongly urge you to raise the car to the upper spring perch, but you can do what you want....
As for the parts. I'm not sure how shipping companies manage to mangle things so badly. Having worked for UPS, the trucks are "packed" basically by just throwing things in. I'm sorry they were beaten up, but glad they got there in one piece. Have no idea how the endlink bolt would have gotten bent. Something heavy must have been sitting on it. If the bolt is bent, I'd recommend finding a replacement..... They aren't grade 8, they are grade 5, and it's a 3/8" (.370") diameter bolt you should be able to find at most hardware stores.
As for the parts. I'm not sure how shipping companies manage to mangle things so badly. Having worked for UPS, the trucks are "packed" basically by just throwing things in. I'm sorry they were beaten up, but glad they got there in one piece. Have no idea how the endlink bolt would have gotten bent. Something heavy must have been sitting on it. If the bolt is bent, I'd recommend finding a replacement..... They aren't grade 8, they are grade 5, and it's a 3/8" (.370") diameter bolt you should be able to find at most hardware stores.
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10-29-2007, 01:50 PM
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The alignment will be way off from the lowering, and you went further than normal. I have to strongly urge you to raise the car to the upper spring perch, but you can do what you want....
As for the parts. I'm not sure how shipping companies manage to mangle things so badly. Having worked for UPS, the trucks are "packed" basically by just throwing things in. I'm sorry they were beaten up, but glad they got there in one piece. Have no idea how the endlink bolt would have gotten bent. Something heavy must have been sitting on it. If the bolt is bent, I'd recommend finding a replacement..... They aren't grade 8, they are grade 5, and it's a 3/8" (.370") diameter bolt you should be able to find at most hardware stores.
As for the parts. I'm not sure how shipping companies manage to mangle things so badly. Having worked for UPS, the trucks are "packed" basically by just throwing things in. I'm sorry they were beaten up, but glad they got there in one piece. Have no idea how the endlink bolt would have gotten bent. Something heavy must have been sitting on it. If the bolt is bent, I'd recommend finding a replacement..... They aren't grade 8, they are grade 5, and it's a 3/8" (.370") diameter bolt you should be able to find at most hardware stores.
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10-29-2007, 01:55 PM
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about 5/8".
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10-30-2007, 02:24 AM
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I run mine on the lower perch with Sam's springs, and have had no problems at all, softed the shocks alittle and it rides nice.
And surprisingly when I did mine, the alignment was damn close from my Pro-kit alignment. You will love the set-up. and Sam's springs are awesome, I have hit the rear bump stops yet. My Pro-kit rode on them.
And surprisingly when I did mine, the alignment was damn close from my Pro-kit alignment. You will love the set-up. and Sam's springs are awesome, I have hit the rear bump stops yet. My Pro-kit rode on them.
10-30-2007, 03:41 AM
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I run mine on the lower perch with Sam's springs, and have had no problems at all, softed the shocks alittle and it rides nice.
And surprisingly when I did mine, the alignment was damn close from my Pro-kit alignment. You will love the set-up. and Sam's springs are awesome, I have hit the rear bump stops yet. My Pro-kit rode on them.
And surprisingly when I did mine, the alignment was damn close from my Pro-kit alignment. You will love the set-up. and Sam's springs are awesome, I have hit the rear bump stops yet. My Pro-kit rode on them.
10-30-2007, 01:02 PM
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By running on the lower perch w/lowering springs you are simply taking away that much more working spring travel. And you are starting off lower, but the spring rates are for a car sitting a bit taller statically. Also the reason the springs are the height they are is because of suspension geometry. We are trying to not go too low because it angles the control arms and tie-rods that much more.
And finally, shocks are not impossible to break, Koni's included. By running lower without more spring rate you run a larger risk of bottoming the shock internally and damaging it. This can happen from time to time on the upper perch, just a lot more prevelent when you are starting lower.
They are now your parts... you can do what you wish with them, and most shops would probably not care. I'm not most shops, and being I speced the spring design, rates and heights I'd prefer you to run the upper or stock height spring perch on Koni's.
And finally, shocks are not impossible to break, Koni's included. By running lower without more spring rate you run a larger risk of bottoming the shock internally and damaging it. This can happen from time to time on the upper perch, just a lot more prevelent when you are starting lower.
They are now your parts... you can do what you wish with them, and most shops would probably not care. I'm not most shops, and being I speced the spring design, rates and heights I'd prefer you to run the upper or stock height spring perch on Koni's.
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By running on the lower perch w/lowering springs you are simply taking away that much more working spring travel. And you are starting off lower, but the spring rates are for a car sitting a bit taller statically. Also the reason the springs are the height they are is because of suspension geometry. We are trying to not go too low because it angles the control arms and tie-rods that much more.
And finally, shocks are not impossible to break, Koni's included. By running lower without more spring rate you run a larger risk of bottoming the shock internally and damaging it. This can happen from time to time on the upper perch, just a lot more prevelent when you are starting lower.
They are now your parts... you can do what you wish with them, and most shops would probably not care. I'm not most shops, and being I speced the spring design, rates and heights I'd prefer you to run the upper or stock height spring perch on Koni's.
And finally, shocks are not impossible to break, Koni's included. By running lower without more spring rate you run a larger risk of bottoming the shock internally and damaging it. This can happen from time to time on the upper perch, just a lot more prevelent when you are starting lower.
They are now your parts... you can do what you wish with them, and most shops would probably not care. I'm not most shops, and being I speced the spring design, rates and heights I'd prefer you to run the upper or stock height spring perch on Koni's.
10-30-2007, 09:10 PM
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I'm not rying to be an *** or anyhting, but look at his sig. Sam knows his ****, REALLY knows his ****. Yeah the car looks good, but function out weighs looks. I've talked to Sam and valued his suggestions. I don't have the $$$$ to just splurge and buy the parts I need, that's why I'm saving my $$$$ to buy it right the first time. Take his advise or pay the price.
10-30-2007, 09:26 PM
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I think I am going to just switch it back to the upper perch setting tomorrow. The alignment is not until Friday so I should be ok. Shouldnt take too long since I am now a pro at suspension swapping! lol
10-31-2007, 12:18 AM
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And you wonder why manufacturer's don't like to warranty things. It's because dumb *** people have this attitude and run setup's that shouldn't be run. You ask a question and you don't get the answer you want so you just keep on going. If you are going to do that, don't ask the damn question in the first place and waste the time of people that make this board so educational to go to.
10-31-2007, 11:04 AM
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Calm down everyone. 
Insane, your car can't be much lighter than stock, and most of that weight likely came off the rear. And while the car will travel down to and beyond that point in daily use, it's like driving around with your foot on the floor all the time.
Insane, your car can't be much lighter than stock, and most of that weight likely came off the rear. And while the car will travel down to and beyond that point in daily use, it's like driving around with your foot on the floor all the time.
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And you wonder why manufacturer's don't like to warranty things. It's because dumb *** people have this attitude and run setup's that shouldn't be run. You ask a question and you don't get the answer you want so you just keep on going. If you are going to do that, don't ask the damn question in the first place and waste the time of people that make this board so educational to go to.