New class for TX2k...where are the big boys at?
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New class for TX2k...where are the big boys at? Announcing a NEW BIG DOG Drag Race Class for TX2K14 - Imports vs. X275 Domestic Cars
Thank you VERY MUCH to Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing) for working on these rules for WEEKS. He is the man responsible for working with import racers and domestic racers to make these rules as far as possible. So far it looks like he's spoken to and received SERIOUS interest on the import side from:
Jamie Carter
Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing)
VJ Big Daddy + 3 cars from FL
Charles Walker S2000
Cody Phillips
Buck Lemoine
Nero Deliwala (is there a chance the Titan Supra will make a comeback at TX2K14?)
...and a few others to remain nameless.
Payouts:
1st place $2,000
2nd place: $750
3rd place: $250
4th place: $250
FORMAT
The racers will decide by majority vote if they will run 1/8th mile OR 1/4 mile on Saturday 3/15. Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing) will help manage this process.
IMPORT RULES
All vehicles must conform with general NHRA safety rules.
Body: Must have an import body or a domestic sport compact body.
Chassis: All cars must utilize factory strut tower locations.
Suspension: All cars must utilize stock mounting points for front suspension in the stock location. Any type rear suspension is permitted. Aftermarket front and rear control arms, struts, and shocks are permitted.
Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted.
Exhaust: Muffler(s) are required unless vehicle is turbocharged.
Electronics: Any electronics are permitted.
Transmission: Any type transmission is permitted.
Clutch: Any style clutch is permitted.
Shifter: Any style shifter is permitted. Strain gauges are permitted.
Fuel: Gasoline, ethanol, or methanol is permitted.
Oiling System: Dry sump oil system is permitted.
Engine Containment Device: Engine diaper or catch pan device to capture oil and/or debris in the event of engine and/or transmission failure mandatory. Where exhaust header passes directly under oil pan, a two piece diaper may be utilized. If a catch pan device is used, catch pan must employ minimum 2 inch high lips on all sides. Lips must be covered or curved inward, so as to contain oil in pan. Catch pan must
cover entire area below the engine. Catch pan must extend from radiator support to firewall and from frame rail to frame rail. In all cases, lips must be adequate enough to contain oil in the catch pan.
Engine: Engine must be of import origin or domestic sport compact origin. Any internal engine modifications are permitted. Motor swaps of same manufacturer or different manufacturers are allowed as long as they meet weight requirements.
Turbochargers: Turbochargers are measured at the inducer wheel where the leading edge of the inducer wheel meets the housing.
Nitrous Oxide: Any style nitrous oxide system is permitted.
Intercooling: Any intercooler system is permitted
Tires: Maximum size slick or DOT bias ply tire is 28.0” x 10.5W”.
Minimum Weight car and driver:
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 94.9 mm single Nitrous ok 2900 lbs.
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 98.9 mm single Nitrous Prohibited 2950 lbs.
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 94.9 mm single or 67.9 mm twins Nitrous ok 3000 lbs.
* IRS to straight axle conversions: Add 100 lbs.
X275 DOMESTIC RULES
All vehicles must conform with general NHRA safety rules.
BODY: The car must retain its original appearance. No stretched front ends. All cars must have hoods that cover there entire induction system.
INTERIOR: Transmission tunnel maybe removable and must be metal. Bare inside frame of car cannot be exposed.
WINDSHIELD/WINDOWS: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted.
CHASSIS: Complete stock chassis and frame rails must be retained from motor plate/shock tower to behind the rear wheel opening. Back-halved cars are not permitted. Mini tubs are allowed. Rear frame rails may be notched for clearance and must be in the factory location.
ENGINE: Maximum displacement for all engines is 588ci. Small blocks are allowed any deck height but must retain stock bore spacing. Big block allowed the following deck heights but must retain stock bore spacing. GM Big Blocks are limited to a 10.2 deck height. Ford Big Blocks are limited to a 10.3 deck height. Mopar Big Blocks are limited to a 10.7 deck height
TURBOCHARGERS: Single turbocharger limited to 88 mm maximum. Turbocharger size will be verified by measuring the housing bore at the leading edge of the impeller wheel and must maintain the contour of the compressor housing. Inducer dimensions will not exceed 3.462 inches and Exducer dimensions will not exceed 4.765 inches on
MID FRAME turbos. Inducer dimensions will not exceed 3.462 inches and Exducer dimensions will not exceed 5.56 inches on LARGE FRAME turbos. The maximum diameter of the housing bore at the leading edge of the wheel may not exceed 2 mm more than the maximum allowable turbocharger size permitted and LF 85/88 with surge slots/holes must have a cover over the slots/holes that stand off by no more than .250. Inserts or reducers to achieve inlet or outlet dimensions prohibited. Any type of air to air or water to air intercooler permitted. Turbochargers w/nitrous-oxide prohibited except on inline 6 cylinder engines.
SUPERCHARGERS: Cog or gear driven superchargers are permitted, must meet all factory inlet, outlet, and internal housing dimensions. Inserts or reducers to achieve inlet or outlet dimensions prohibited. Any type intercooler is permitted. Supercharger cannot be combined with nitrous oxide. Roots superchargers are limited to a 10-71. Centrifugal superchargers are permitted. Screw superchargers are not permitted.
NITROUS OXIDE: Small block is permitted to run any type multi-stage nitrous systems. Big blocks are limited to a single stage nitrous system with single -6 line to solenoids. A single stage fogger (2 nitrous solenoids and 2 fuel solenoids) is permitted or if using a single plate then your limited to (1 fuel solenoid, 1 nitrous solenoid), and 1 purge solenoid, purge must exit engine compartment. EFI Big Blocks will only be allowed 2 nitrous solenoids for a dry nitrous system and will only have 1 line per nozzle/per cylinder.
TRANSMISSION: Any factory style transmission allowed.
INDUCTION: Small Block combinations may run any type induction. Big Block combinations are limited to a dedicated single opening cast intake with a single carb or a single 4150 or 4500 series throttle body. (4 blade, dual blade or single blade throttle body permitted).
EXHAUST: Mufflers or inserts are required on all cars except for turbo cars.
FUEL: Gasoline only is permitted.
SUSPENSION: Stock style or ladder bar suspension cars only. Rear leaf springs, springs, shocks, and coil-overs may be moved to accommodate tire clearance, and do not need to be mounted in stock location
TIRES: All cars with power adder must compete on a Drag Radial type tire with the following sidewall designation 275/60/15. Naturally aspirated cars are permitted to run a 28.0″ x 10.5″ slick, no “W” tires permitted.
Minimum base Weights: All minimum weights include the driver.
Naturally Aspirated (small block) 2600 lbs
Naturally Aspirated (big block) 2800 lbs
Nitrous (small block) 3000 lbs
Nitrous (big block) 3300 lbs
Single YSI / F1A/6-71 Supercharger (small block) 2800 lbs
Single F1C/8-71 Supercharger (small block) 2900 lbs
Single F1R/Xi/10-71 Supercharger (small block – *mod motor or with stock valve angle heads) 3000 lbs
Single F1X/XB105 Supercharger (small Block - *mod motor or with stock valve angle heads) 3350 lbs
Single 76mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2700 lbs.
Single 80mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2800 lbs.
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2900 lbs.
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (Y2K or GT47-88 ) (mid-frame) (small block) 3000 lbs
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (Pro Mod 85) (mid frame)(small block) 3100 lbs
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (GT55-88, Pro Mod 88 or =) (small block) 3350 lbs
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (Large Frame 85) (small block – mod motor or stock valve angle) 3250 lbs
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (Large Frame 88 ) (small block – mod motor or stock valve angle) 3300 lbs
*Billet heads are allowed add 50lbs
*-6 and -4 nitrous line(s) must be of standard braided line construction, (no high pressure hydraulic lines )
Thank you VERY MUCH to Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing) for working on these rules for WEEKS. He is the man responsible for working with import racers and domestic racers to make these rules as far as possible. So far it looks like he's spoken to and received SERIOUS interest on the import side from:
Jamie Carter
Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing)
VJ Big Daddy + 3 cars from FL
Charles Walker S2000
Cody Phillips
Buck Lemoine
Nero Deliwala (is there a chance the Titan Supra will make a comeback at TX2K14?)
...and a few others to remain nameless.
Payouts:
1st place $2,000
2nd place: $750
3rd place: $250
4th place: $250
FORMAT
The racers will decide by majority vote if they will run 1/8th mile OR 1/4 mile on Saturday 3/15. Dana Westover (VirtualWorks Racing) will help manage this process.
IMPORT RULES
All vehicles must conform with general NHRA safety rules.
Body: Must have an import body or a domestic sport compact body.
Chassis: All cars must utilize factory strut tower locations.
Suspension: All cars must utilize stock mounting points for front suspension in the stock location. Any type rear suspension is permitted. Aftermarket front and rear control arms, struts, and shocks are permitted.
Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted.
Exhaust: Muffler(s) are required unless vehicle is turbocharged.
Electronics: Any electronics are permitted.
Transmission: Any type transmission is permitted.
Clutch: Any style clutch is permitted.
Shifter: Any style shifter is permitted. Strain gauges are permitted.
Fuel: Gasoline, ethanol, or methanol is permitted.
Oiling System: Dry sump oil system is permitted.
Engine Containment Device: Engine diaper or catch pan device to capture oil and/or debris in the event of engine and/or transmission failure mandatory. Where exhaust header passes directly under oil pan, a two piece diaper may be utilized. If a catch pan device is used, catch pan must employ minimum 2 inch high lips on all sides. Lips must be covered or curved inward, so as to contain oil in pan. Catch pan must
cover entire area below the engine. Catch pan must extend from radiator support to firewall and from frame rail to frame rail. In all cases, lips must be adequate enough to contain oil in the catch pan.
Engine: Engine must be of import origin or domestic sport compact origin. Any internal engine modifications are permitted. Motor swaps of same manufacturer or different manufacturers are allowed as long as they meet weight requirements.
Turbochargers: Turbochargers are measured at the inducer wheel where the leading edge of the inducer wheel meets the housing.
Nitrous Oxide: Any style nitrous oxide system is permitted.
Intercooling: Any intercooler system is permitted
Tires: Maximum size slick or DOT bias ply tire is 28.0” x 10.5W”.
Minimum Weight car and driver:
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 94.9 mm single Nitrous ok 2900 lbs.
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 98.9 mm single Nitrous Prohibited 2950 lbs.
6-cylinder Manual or Auto 94.9 mm single or 67.9 mm twins Nitrous ok 3000 lbs.
* IRS to straight axle conversions: Add 100 lbs.
X275 DOMESTIC RULES
All vehicles must conform with general NHRA safety rules.
BODY: The car must retain its original appearance. No stretched front ends. All cars must have hoods that cover there entire induction system.
INTERIOR: Transmission tunnel maybe removable and must be metal. Bare inside frame of car cannot be exposed.
WINDSHIELD/WINDOWS: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted.
CHASSIS: Complete stock chassis and frame rails must be retained from motor plate/shock tower to behind the rear wheel opening. Back-halved cars are not permitted. Mini tubs are allowed. Rear frame rails may be notched for clearance and must be in the factory location.
ENGINE: Maximum displacement for all engines is 588ci. Small blocks are allowed any deck height but must retain stock bore spacing. Big block allowed the following deck heights but must retain stock bore spacing. GM Big Blocks are limited to a 10.2 deck height. Ford Big Blocks are limited to a 10.3 deck height. Mopar Big Blocks are limited to a 10.7 deck height
TURBOCHARGERS: Single turbocharger limited to 88 mm maximum. Turbocharger size will be verified by measuring the housing bore at the leading edge of the impeller wheel and must maintain the contour of the compressor housing. Inducer dimensions will not exceed 3.462 inches and Exducer dimensions will not exceed 4.765 inches on
MID FRAME turbos. Inducer dimensions will not exceed 3.462 inches and Exducer dimensions will not exceed 5.56 inches on LARGE FRAME turbos. The maximum diameter of the housing bore at the leading edge of the wheel may not exceed 2 mm more than the maximum allowable turbocharger size permitted and LF 85/88 with surge slots/holes must have a cover over the slots/holes that stand off by no more than .250. Inserts or reducers to achieve inlet or outlet dimensions prohibited. Any type of air to air or water to air intercooler permitted. Turbochargers w/nitrous-oxide prohibited except on inline 6 cylinder engines.
SUPERCHARGERS: Cog or gear driven superchargers are permitted, must meet all factory inlet, outlet, and internal housing dimensions. Inserts or reducers to achieve inlet or outlet dimensions prohibited. Any type intercooler is permitted. Supercharger cannot be combined with nitrous oxide. Roots superchargers are limited to a 10-71. Centrifugal superchargers are permitted. Screw superchargers are not permitted.
NITROUS OXIDE: Small block is permitted to run any type multi-stage nitrous systems. Big blocks are limited to a single stage nitrous system with single -6 line to solenoids. A single stage fogger (2 nitrous solenoids and 2 fuel solenoids) is permitted or if using a single plate then your limited to (1 fuel solenoid, 1 nitrous solenoid), and 1 purge solenoid, purge must exit engine compartment. EFI Big Blocks will only be allowed 2 nitrous solenoids for a dry nitrous system and will only have 1 line per nozzle/per cylinder.
TRANSMISSION: Any factory style transmission allowed.
INDUCTION: Small Block combinations may run any type induction. Big Block combinations are limited to a dedicated single opening cast intake with a single carb or a single 4150 or 4500 series throttle body. (4 blade, dual blade or single blade throttle body permitted).
EXHAUST: Mufflers or inserts are required on all cars except for turbo cars.
FUEL: Gasoline only is permitted.
SUSPENSION: Stock style or ladder bar suspension cars only. Rear leaf springs, springs, shocks, and coil-overs may be moved to accommodate tire clearance, and do not need to be mounted in stock location
TIRES: All cars with power adder must compete on a Drag Radial type tire with the following sidewall designation 275/60/15. Naturally aspirated cars are permitted to run a 28.0″ x 10.5″ slick, no “W” tires permitted.
Minimum base Weights: All minimum weights include the driver.
Naturally Aspirated (small block) 2600 lbs
Naturally Aspirated (big block) 2800 lbs
Nitrous (small block) 3000 lbs
Nitrous (big block) 3300 lbs
Single YSI / F1A/6-71 Supercharger (small block) 2800 lbs
Single F1C/8-71 Supercharger (small block) 2900 lbs
Single F1R/Xi/10-71 Supercharger (small block – *mod motor or with stock valve angle heads) 3000 lbs
Single F1X/XB105 Supercharger (small Block - *mod motor or with stock valve angle heads) 3350 lbs
Single 76mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2700 lbs.
Single 80mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2800 lbs.
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (mid frame) (small block) 2900 lbs.
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (Y2K or GT47-88 ) (mid-frame) (small block) 3000 lbs
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (Pro Mod 85) (mid frame)(small block) 3100 lbs
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (GT55-88, Pro Mod 88 or =) (small block) 3350 lbs
Single 85mm T6 Turbocharger (Large Frame 85) (small block – mod motor or stock valve angle) 3250 lbs
Single 88mm T6 Turbocharger (Large Frame 88 ) (small block – mod motor or stock valve angle) 3300 lbs
*Billet heads are allowed add 50lbs
*-6 and -4 nitrous line(s) must be of standard braided line construction, (no high pressure hydraulic lines )
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Have to admit imports have huge advantage, but We will be there and We might run our x275 car but on that garbage track after a bunch of supras go down it with sticks and tear up the starting line, NO drag radial car will run a number
Let domestics run a 28x10.5
Let domestics run a 28x10.5
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That's why he created this class for the faster imports and domestics to have a place to race and be part of TX2k...
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I it needs to be 1/4, that's what a real x275 car runs
I think domestics should be able to run a 28x10.5
I gaurantee a x275 car will go slower on that tire, but if the tracks torn up like last year at least they have a chance to go down the track
I think domestics should be able to run a 28x10.5
I gaurantee a x275 car will go slower on that tire, but if the tracks torn up like last year at least they have a chance to go down the track
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No real. Real 275 cars could only run 1/8 on that track. They don't have the shut down area needed. I'd fell safer running 4's in the 1/8 then running low 7's and stopping in the pasture.
