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Old 05-22-2007, 06:25 PM
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this the the 67 camaro that has the supra motor in it that i have been talking about..

i know that alot of people dont like this idea due the brand loyalty..besides that..

how much would it really cost to make 1000bhp(thru motor) with an LSX reliably thru a 6 speed?????


dont be biased...because i see people here breaking **** all the times and no one has even reliably made 800hp yet??
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To answer your question , I guess the cost would depend on what kind of power adder you wanted to use. Maybe ~10-14k if you can do the labor yourself?
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Whats the point your trying to make anyway? That the supra motor can hold more power than an lsx based motor? If so, it doesn't really matter because lsx based motor cars run the same times as supras while making a few hundred hp less.
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any induction..

G and Jeff, how much would it really cost to build a set-up like yours??
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Originally Posted by sc300
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G and Jeff, how much would it really cost to build a set-up like yours??
Why no nitrous? There are tons of "true street cars" that have dope on them.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/709092-885rwhp-814rwtq-little-cdn-347-f1r-need-more-fuel.html
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28
Whats the point your trying to make anyway? That the supra motor can hold more power than an lsx based motor? If so, it doesn't really matter because lsx based motor cars run the same times as supras while making a few hundred hp less.
because i keep hearing people saying that it is cheaper to use a LSX based motor..this is just not for this camaro, but for my 240s also..they keep saying that it would have been cheaper to put in a lsx motor instead of my 2jz..but i dont see any real figures...maybe I have been wrong all this time???
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Originally Posted by sc300
because i keep hearing people saying that it is cheaper to use a LSX based motor..this is just not for this camaro, but for my 240s also..they keep saying that it would have been cheaper to put in a lsx motor instead of my 2jz..but i dont see any real figures...maybe I have been wrong all this time???
Oh I See, whats the approximate cost of your supra motor in your 240 including turbo etc.?
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28

i know its possible..but how much??
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Originally Posted by sc300
i know its possible..but how much??
why not pm EVSmotors and ask him?
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Here we go again with the horsepower wars.
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28
Oh I See, whats the approximate cost of your supra motor in your 240 including turbo etc.?

my supra and 240 have built motors so they cost a little bit more

but i can tell you how much it cost to make 800hp to the wheels in stock supra motor (you can buy a complete supra motor with a 6 speed with all the assessories for $6k, for an auto it only cost $2500)

all the other parts below are pretty much required for any type of motor..but this is how much it will cost for a supra motor..

$4k for turbo kit
$2k for fuel system
$1.5 for fuel management
$2k for exhaust, minor electronics

for auto..$2500 for rebuilt tranny/TC that will hold 900hp reliably
for 6 speed..just a clutch
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Originally Posted by ulySSes
Here we go again with the horsepower wars.
why not?? someone school me on this...since i have a c6 and dont even want to touch it because i hear all the stories of them breaking...but Im mounting the 19/20s iforge tomorow..cant wait..

anyway...im just killing some times until its time to come out to play tonight


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I think I have done it in three different builds, costs about the same over all
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Originally Posted by sc300
because i keep hearing people saying that it is cheaper to use a LSX based motor..this is just not for this camaro, but for my 240s also..they keep saying that it would have been cheaper to put in a lsx motor instead of my 2jz..but i dont see any real figures...maybe I have been wrong all this time???
Because a stock LS1/t56 in a light car is incredibly fast.
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The fact of the matter is that LSX's make AWESOME street engines. They respond to bolt-ons very well, and the stock cylinder heads are some of the best any OEM has ever produced.

They DON'T, however, make very good race engines. The blocks are weak, they are prone to headgasket problems, everything none OEM (C5R Stuff) is very low production and very high cost, the oiling system sucks, and a vast majority of people in the LSX community are total squirrels.

All of this is changing a little bit with the new LSX and Warhawk pieces, but in the end I still think a conventional SBC is the way to go. But to each their own, of course.
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Duy, a rich mf'er like yourself shouldn't worry so much about doing things as cheap as possible.

I sure don't worry about being a cheap *** when it comes to engines or cars, why do you?
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Duy, a rich mf'er like yourself shouldn't worry so much about doing things as cheap as possible.

I sure don't worry about being a cheap *** when it comes to engines or cars, why do you?
lmao, no doubt. I think he's talking about me making 750 RWHP reliably. My set up wasn't cheap but mine was built several years ago, much cheaper now. SC300 I'm not stock, it's a 6.0 ltr iron block bored .030 over, the block was decked and the decks were prepped for Cometic gaskets, line bored and honed. Callies 4" forged crank, Crower forged rods, Diamond forged and coated pistons, Hellfire hand file fit N20 rings, Cometic head gaskets, GM 317 head blanks, 2.055 intake valves, 1.60 exhaust valves, Comp dual springs, custom CNC work on the heads, 1/2" ARP head studs, Comp Cams 244/248 .612/.615 on a 114 +4 LSA, GMPP single plane intake manifold bunged for fuel injection, Accufab T/B, Compucar N20 plate system, 40LB SVO injectors, billet fuel rails, ARP fastners top to bottom and front to back. Thru a 4500 RPM converter, PG and 9" it makes 500RWHP on motor and 750RWHP on a 275 shot. The car will runs 9's all day long and doesn't hurt anything. Anymore 750 and above it relatively easy to do and fairly cheap too.
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Duy, a rich mf'er like yourself shouldn't worry so much about doing things as cheap as possible.

I sure don't worry about being a cheap *** when it comes to engines or cars, why do you?

i didnt get to where im today by doing dumb ****..i like fast cars, but just dont build one that will break me...thats the reason i have always have a fast car, i choose a car that i know will be strong and look good..i only do what is necessary to make them fast.. (i dont like old beat up cars with a SBC and lots of nitrous)

my old 240 ran mid 10s with a 4 stock cylinder with just after market pistons and rods and a turbo kit and fuel sytems..running stock tranny and everything else...my supra runs 9 using a stock rebuild tranny and stock rear end and axles..using that similar motor combo and dropped it in my 240 and it ran mid 8s with a TH350..

i would like to make my C6 run mid 10s to, but its gonna cost me an arm and a leg to get it there...for all that money i can buy me another car...



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