PSSYCO

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Hey guys thanks for the help in advance. Ive been thinking about getting a welder so i can make and weld on some sub frame connectors, exhaust stuff, and just general use on the car. I found a few from harbor freight and northern tools let me know what you guys think would be a good buy for me.

First the Northern Tool:
-115 volt, 70 amp for $80: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5916_200355916

-230 volt, 200amp for $130: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...1950_200381950

Now the Harbor Freight:
-115 volt, 90 amp for $130: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94056

-230 volt, 120 amp for $150: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55833

I would love to go out and spend a lot on a good welder, but I cant yet cause I'm a college kid with a girlfriend, and a SS haha. Thanks guys!

BADD SS

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First I wouldnt buy a cheap welder, honestly try ebay or craiglist for a name brand used one before that cheap crap.

Second you will really want a MIG welder, not an arc welder, or flux core machine. As a begginer, you will have alot of difficulty welding thin gauge stuff, imho.... I would look for a lincoln sp135 plus/ miller 140 up to an sp 175 or miller 180 hobarts are good also.

Just dont buy crap, you will regret it.

hotrodscrap

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Yea, +1, try to get a good quality (name brand) welder that will last. I'm partial to Lincoln and Miller but don't buy the cheap crap. You ALWAYS get what you pay for with tools!

-SS

AGH

You don't want no cheap AC welder. If you can not get a AC/DC welder then don't get anything. You dont want to weld your subframe or any part of you cage with MIG. MIG welds are not deep penetrating welds. I would stick rod weld my chassis with a DC welder over MIG any day of the week. Personally, I weld my cage and chassis stuff with TIG (heli-arc). Do not use a 6010 or 6011 rod on the cage or chassis either; use 7018.

PSSYCO

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Thanks for the fast replies guys! Looks like i won't be getting one yet then. I guess I'll have to wait till after college. What sucks is that i have damn near every other tool out there! Oh well thanks guys.

AGH

Your in Houston? I'm in Pasadena. I can help you out if you need something welded. Send me a PM if you want.

PSSYCO

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What About this one? found in on craigslist.
http://houston.craigslist.org/bar/1337930400.html

PSSYCO

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Thanks man, yeah i just want to learn how to weld and not have to go to a shop to get things welded. Kinda wanna make stuff like trailers and what not, just to try it out.

BADD SS

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Dont weld on a chassis with a mig welder? You must have a plethora of welding knowledge....

If you cant get penetration with a properly set up mig welder, you dont know how to weld.

gillbot

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don't get the harbor freight welders, they are absolute junk.

fast01

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I have this welder:

-230 volt, 120 amp for $150: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55833

I was just using it today in fact, to fix some old steel benches my wife doesn't want to throw out. Is it a great welder....no, but it gets the job done. I'm using flux core wire in it right now, but it does have the capability to run gas (which is nice...I guess). When I'm using gas I run straight CO2. If you're looking to build trailers and frames I would not use this machine. It's good for small repairs, exhaust and the like, but I wouldn't trust my life or anyone elses with it. If you're looking for something cheap to learn on it should be ok, but you will be buying another machine when you want to take on bigger projects.

98RedBird

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Do you have a tractor supply near you? I'd look into the Hobart Handler 140. Awesome little welder to start with!

BlwnLs1GTO

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Keep an eye on craigslist.
In my area, I'm watching quality MIG and TIG 220V machines going for $300 to $1,500 depending on size/features etc...

You're also going to need accessories like Shielding gas, helmet, wire etc...

I bought a Clarke 130EN 110v MIG and it's as good as any other 110v BUT, I really wish I would have spent the extra money for a 220V machine.

gillbot

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my harbor freight welder worked well for like the first month, then is started sporadically feeding wire and got real jittery no matter how high you set the roller tension. Shortly after that, I had to "tweak" the rollers just to get enough tension to get the wire to feed at all. IMHO, for a less than 2 month old welder, that's my definition of junk.

blazin

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Get a 220 unit.

CarsandWomen

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just bought this off craigs list. guy paid 2300 i got it for 950. damn near brand new. Im a welder proffesionally and me and my co-workers were very suprised how well it welds. Plus itall run off co2 that i can buy at lowes and wallmart, 24/7/365 cept for x-mas LOL

http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/1321220196.html

CarsandWomen

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ps im on gessner by I 10. you wanna come over and try mine say the word, ill show you how to weld real qwick so you know a little more what your lookin for. another of my co-workers has a Cracker Box if you wanna try Stick. I hate it but he loves it.......

e bay for hoods, wall mart for gloves, value village for a denim shirt.....what else you wanna know? I work with 23 other welders lol, MiG, TiG, Stick, Automated TiG, MiG Spray, yada yada yada

PSSYCO

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Thanks for all the info man! I might have to take you up on that offer once my back get better! Yeah, welding is something I've just always thought would be an amazing craft to know.

G-Body

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I have a hazardous freight dual mig 151 welder. Overall, its an ok machine. I have probably put ~40-50 pounds of wire through it, and it does have its faults.

1. The torch head/umbilical cord sux. theres no better way to put that, cheaply made and no parts are available to service it. The outer rips and burns very easily and it has a plastic liner for the wire to slide through that wears easily and is not replaceable. It also has a tendency to leak shielding gas through the valve, so turn the bottle off when you stop welding. You can buy a new torch head/umbilical from HF for like $25 but its just the same cheap POS that is gonna break again.

Got pissed at mine last night, and went to mc master carr this morning Replace the stupid plastic wire liner with 5/32 nylon 6 tubing (its a direct bolt in) and you now have liner that you can buy in 100ft roles for $0.22 / ft. Replaced the worthless easy to rip and burn outer covering with 3/8" liquid tight PVC flexible conduit (think flexible electrical conduit but in PVC instead of steel) Put a liquid tight cord grip on to attach the pvc to the welder face and the umbilical is now 1000% better than it was.

I`m not going to say its the best welder, but I have less than $200 in it including today`s mods and up until tonight it was pretty trouble free. (I nuked the DC rectifier diodes tonight welding up a boat trailer.) Guess I will see how much it is to replace those tomorrow. Overall I am still happy with my purchase, I would like a miller, or lincoln, but I have had this one for at least 4 years and the only problems so far were that the torch head/umbilical is very fragile, and now I nuked the stupid rectifier.

CarsandWomen

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a co-worker, Tom, and his buddies bought a hobo freight TiG machine to weld a roll cage. they did what they needed, it worked well enough for em.

Then they decide they want more power.
they took apart the machine took out the 110v power cord wired in a 220v power cord and welded with it on maximum power for about 2 minutes.

It then started smoking and burst into flames haha. took Tom 10 min to tell me that cuz he couldnt stop laughing