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Old 02-11-2010, 03:28 PM
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I'm wanting to buy a tig welder in the next few weeks but having a hard time deciding on which one to buy. I want to be able to weld on cages, exhaust, rear-ends, and aluminum. I don't want to buy one that's to small. I've been looking at the Miller diversons and maxstars but like I said I don't want to get one thats to small. Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by 02Z28
I'm wanting to buy a tig welder in the next few weeks but having a hard time deciding on which one to buy. I want to be able to weld on cages, exhaust, rear-ends, and aluminum. I don't want to buy one that's to small. I've been looking at the Miller diversons and maxstars but like I said I don't want to get one thats to small. Any suggestions?
What are you looking to spend? diversion is more of a diy hobbyist unit, maxstar wont do aluminum. Dynasty's are amazing and syncrowaves are in-between. Budget will determine....
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I willing to spend whatever it takes to get a good welder. Hopefully no more the $2500-$3000.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28
I willing to spend whatever it takes to get a good welder. Hopefully no more the $2500-$3000.
If you are willing to spend $2500- 3000 you can buy a dynasty 200DX. Probably the best machine out there for adjustability and performance, it's 200 amp output, pulse tig, inverter, weighs about 50 lbs, about the size of two shoeboxes and can run on any input voltage 1 and 3 phase, auto senses 110 or 220v. I have one, amazing machine, lightyears ahead of my syncrowave 250. Which, by all standards is also an excellent machine...

If you want portability, and the ability to control aluminum bead profile and welding characteristics, go for the dynasty.. Going to stay shop based and don t need portability or a top of the line arc, get a syncrowave 200.
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I used a Miller Syncrowave 351 for years and that thing was a beast. It ran on 3 phase but surely they have a 220 model.
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Thinking about going with the syncrowave 200. I can get one that comes with everything minus the bottle for around $2200. The Dynasty is $2800 but looks like it doesn't come with anything but the welder.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28
Thinking about going with the syncrowave 200. I can get one that comes with everything minus the bottle for around $2200. The Dynasty is $2800 but looks like it doesn't come with anything but the welder.
Yep, Ive seen 1875 for the sync 200 soup to nuts so shop around.

Dynasty's for 2695 shipped, but you need to buy a regulator, electrode holder and stinger with leads, and a foot pedal. About another 450 in stuff.
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Where did you find them for that price? I've been looking at them on cyberweld.com.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28
Where did you find them for that price? I've been looking at them on cyberweld.com.
http://www.weldfabulous.com/Welders/...-p6582681.html

1899...

dynasty, just amazon or google it, It took me a while to find mine, but thats what I paid.... albeit a couple months ago
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
If you are willing to spend $2500- 3000 you can buy a dynasty 200DX. Probably the best machine out there for adjustability and performance, it's 200 amp output, pulse tig, inverter, weighs about 50 lbs, about the size of two shoeboxes and can run on any input voltage 1 and 3 phase, auto senses 110 or 220v. I have one, amazing machine, lightyears ahead of my syncrowave 250. Which, by all standards is also an excellent machine...

If you want portability, and the ability to control aluminum bead profile and welding characteristics, go for the dynasty.. Going to stay shop based and don t need portability or a top of the line arc, get a syncrowave 200.

The Dynasty 200DX is tha bomb diggity.

I paid 2700 or 2800 for mine a couple of years ago, but I went through a local welding supply. I told them to come close to the web prices and I'd buy from them. They got to within $100 and that was good enough. I've done the same thing with my mig and plasma. Going local with the same store has been more than worth it...in the last two years I've more than made up the difference in gas and service fee savings. They don't have the price margin on machines because they don't deal in huge quantities like IndianaOxygen or wherever, but they can hook you up in other areas. Just something else to look at.
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Originally Posted by jdustu
The Dynasty 200DX is tha bomb diggity.

I paid 2700 or 2800 for mine a couple of years ago, but I went through a local welding supply. I told them to come close to the web prices and I'd buy from them. They got to within $100 and that was good enough. I've done the same thing with my mig and plasma. Going local with the same store has been more than worth it...in the last two years I've more than made up the difference in gas and service fee savings. They don't have the price margin on machines because they don't deal in huge quantities like IndianaOxygen or wherever, but they can hook you up in other areas. Just something else to look at.
Thats true....

I suppose im luck, Ive known MY lws for 12 years, and they tell me to go elsewhere, as some places sell cheaper than they can buy them for. I still get awesome deals on gas and filler rod, and in truth, thats where they make their money anyway. But it is something to consider, as my case isnt common.
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Might consider the HTP Invertig 201 (from http://www.htpweld.com ). A full setup is in that price range as well, just add a bottle of gas. You can get all your supplies from HTP as well. I'd email Jeff Noland for their best price.

I bought one late last year, and I've been very happy with it. It's really nice being able to do stainless and aluminum (in addition to steel).
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how much power do you have available? If you are limited, then you're gonna find yourself needing the more expensive inverter machine (Dynasty).
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Originally Posted by Camaroholic
Might consider the HTP Invertig 201 (from http://www.htpweld.com ). A full setup is in that price range as well, just add a bottle of gas. You can get all your supplies from HTP as well. I'd email Jeff Noland for their best price.

I bought one late last year, and I've been very happy with it. It's really nice being able to do stainless and aluminum (in addition to steel).
Thanks for the link. Never heard of that company before. I should be getting a catolog from them now.
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Originally Posted by Fireball
how much power do you have available? If you are limited, then you're gonna find yourself needing the more expensive inverter machine (Dynasty).
Im in the process of buying a house right now so I don't know what the wiring is going to be set up for. I'll most likely have to wire in 220 with whatever house I get.
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you need 220 no matter what, but most of the transformer machines need 50A+

The inverter machines only need ~30A breaker.
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I think the Dynasty 200DX can run on 120V, but it current limits you to 115A (or thereabouts). 115A will do 1/8" steel just fine... Nice feature if you need to go mobile with it for thin stuff.
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Originally Posted by Camaroholic
I think the Dynasty 200DX can run on 120V, but it current limits you to 115A (or thereabouts). 115A will do 1/8" steel just fine... Nice feature if you need to go mobile with it for thin stuff.

You'd be surprised what it'll do on 110.
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i love my syncrowave, but as good as inverter technology is today, i would get the dynasty, and add a coolmate to it later on.... my buddy has it, and its sweet!


btw like they said....you can take a dynasty anywhere, or run it off of an engine drive... it would take 3 people to load up the comparable syncrowave
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I'm pretty much down to a Dynasty 200DX or the Invertig 201.....


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