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Year: 2000
Make: Pontiac
Model: Trans Am
Price: $18000
Mileage: 75436
Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing
Location (State): TN
Transmission: Automatic
Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive
LS Engine?: Car has LS engine

*Please read first 5 posts completely before posting.

I bought this car from Patrick G back in Feb. of '07. It was everything its reputation perceived it to be and more. I have had a lot of fun with this car, but after spending a ton of $ on mod after mod for it, I am now to the point where I don't have the time, resources, or disposable income to continue on with it any further. It has a few issues currently but I'm just trying to see what I can get for it as it sits.

Here is Patrick G's original sales thread for the car to give you a good idea of the caliber of this build.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...body-sale.html

After having fun with the 6 speed/nitrous combo on this car at 600 rwhp, I decided last summer it was time to turbo this car since thats what it was originally built for. I did a lot of research on different turbo kits and I wanted something that not only made good power, but also spooled quickly, was fairly reliable on the street, and allowed me to retain the A/C. Since Pat had originally bought an APS twin kit for this car that I didn't end up buying with it, I decided to start looking for a good used kit. I came across a guy who had Cablebandit's old Stage III Incon twin kit. I knew that kit very well from seeing all of what it had done on Jerry's car so I decided to jump on it. After doing some research I also decided that I didn't want to mess with the 6 speed with a turbo either and got a guy to swap my trans for his 4L65E setup.

Since the Incon turbo kit was the same one used on the Lingenfelter C5, I decided to theme this car after the one in the famous video from Hot Rod TV where it races a Blue Angels F-18 on takeoff. I wanted a one of a kind Lingenfelter 4th gen. T/A tribute car. I got some custom Lingenfelter badges made which turned out great. Here is the Lingenfelter C5 I'm referring to:
http://www.z06-corvette.com/super/li...ter-tt-427.htm

Here is the extensive mod list of this car with prices for everything to give you an idea just how much has been spent on this car (I have 90% of the receipts for this stuff:

Motor
-HKE forged 347 short-block (9.2:1 compression) w/Ross power-adder
pistons (15.8cc dish, 3.905” bore), Ackerly & Childs nitrous/turbo rings, King
rod bearings, Scat I-beam rods, & ARP head & main studs
*Built to handle over 1000 rwhp (6k miles): $3,750
-Cloyes double roller timing set w/Torrington bearings: $159
-Rollmaster timing chain: $114
-Manton pushrods (7.505” long, 0.120” wall, 5/16 restriction): $150
-Comp R lifters: $239
-Yella Terra Ultra Light 6645 1.7 shaft-mounted rockers: $409
-LS6 Intake (painted Pewter): $450
-LS1 throttle body: $60
-AFR 225 heads w/8019 spring upgrade milled to 59cc (ported
by Tony Mamo): $2,675
-ARP Head Studs: $280
-ARP Main Bolts: $190
-Pat G spec Comp Cams 224/230 .609/.604 113LSA +2 turbo cam:
$389
-Ported LS6 oil pump: $149
-LS6 PCV valley pan: $66
-Saikou Michi dual PCV catch cans: $135
-Billet/gunmetal “Mobile 1” oil cap: $17
-Speed Inc. oil breather cap: $45
-Polished stainless 5 piece accessory cap cover set: $60
-Custom alternator relocation kit (allows you to retain your
stock style alternator rather than having to settle for the low
amp old style alternator you have to use with the Speed Inc.
kit): $110
-Katech manual belt tensioner (black): $120
-3 bar MAP sensor: 80
-NGK TR6 plugs: $18
-Taylor high heat resistant wires (red): $48
-Innovate LC-1 wideband: $200

Drivetrain
-Built 4L65E w/Hi-energy clutches, seal and gasket kit, bushing kit, 4L56 low
roller clutch, Transgo HD shift kit, & more
*Built to handle 800+ rwhp (10k miles): $1,500
-B&M trans cooler: $60
-Precision 4k Vigilante stall breakaway converter: $850
-GM 10-bolt rear end w/3.73 gears built by GM master tech
(still going strong with no wining noises or signs of heavy
wear): $300

Fuel System
-Twin in-tank Walbro GS340 fuel pumps: $200 On Sale
-Mototron flow matched 60lb. Injectors: $390 On Sale
-FAST fuel rails: $165
-Aeromotive A1000 fuel pressure regulator w/boost reference
& liquid filled gauge: $155
-Snow methanol kit w/dual M15 nozzles, braided lines, liquid
filled gauge, & controller box (uses original windshield
washer fluid reservoir for tank): $350
-–6 lines and fittings to connect directly to stock lines and –8 Earl’s filter with
fittings to fuel pumps: over $320

Turbo System: $5,800
-Incon Stage III Twin Turbo kit
-Garrett ball bearing GT-3076R turbos (Stage III upgrade)
-Heat coated hot parts
-Twin air to air intercoolers
-Turbowerks oil scavenge pump w/-8 braided lines tapped into front of oil
pan
-LPE 8psi. wastegates (also have 14’s)
-XS 50mm BOV
-McMaster•Carr one-way check valves
-.65” oil feed restrictor
-Intake piping to fog light holes
*This is cablebandit’s old kit with some new extras. Kit is 100% complete
and turbos were rebuilt and upgraded about 6k miles ago.


Suspension
-Sam Strano 1.2” lowering springs: $275
-Koni 4/4 single adjustable shocks, front/rear: $970
-Adjustable rear air lift spring kit: $80
-Strano 35mm front/22mm rear hallow sway bar set: $390
-UMI double-adjustable poly-rod PHB (black): $140
-UMI bolt-in LCA relocation bracket kit (black): $90
-BMR poly-rod adjustable LCA’s (black): $210
-BMR chrome moly adjustable shaft mount torque arm (black): $375
-BMR adjustable crossmember torque arm mount kit for 4L60E (black):
$240
-BMR tubular k-member w/factory rack mounts and LS1 poly
motor mounts (black): $490
-BMR tubular adjustable lower a-arms (black): $380
-Stoptech zinc coated drilled/slotted rotors w/ceramic pads: $260

Exterior
-Fikse FM10 wheels: 17x9 up front & 17x10.5 out back: $3,200
-Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval 275/40R/17 tires up front & Nitto 555R drag
radial 315/35R/17 tires out back (about 30% tread left):
-Genuine GM WS6 hood, Pewter w/flat black “blackbird” stripes: $1k
-WS7 badge: $75
-Lingenfelter custom “Twin Turbo 347” badges (poly carbon on
brushed aluminum): $110
-Lingenfelter windshield banner (brand new): $37

Interior
-Custom embroidered T/A logo headrests: $85
-Custom embroidered T/A logo front floor and rear deck mat set (ebony
carpet w/white logos): $200
-White face gauge inserts: $75
-Custom “WS7” TCS cover plate: $40
-HURST Classic “Quarter Stick” shifter **** fitted to Afterthoughts Auto A4
shift **** adapter: $55
-Boyd custom T/A dash vent trim rings *last set ever made* (5
vent rings and one cup holder ring): $90

Electronics
-eBoost2 controller: $540
-Spek multi-color white face gauges in pillar pod: a/f ratio,
boost, & fuel pressure: $385
-Pioneer Premier DEH-P8MP head unit: $210
-Memphis Audio speakers
-RE Audio SE-10 D4 subwoofer w/Square Trade 3 yr. full
warranty (good through 4/9/11): $145
-Subthump stealth box: $112
-Powerbass 1,200 watt amp: $160
-Optima Yelow Top battery w/3 yr. warranty (good through 3/24/12):
$190
-BMR battery relocation bracket kit (black): $90
-JEGS battery relocation cable kit (cut and wired to fit f-body): $90
- Stinger wiring distribution T-block: $10
-Power Bastards 220 amp alternator: $225
-4 gauge alternator wiring upgrade w/big fuse: $55
-ASP alt. overdrive pulley: $27

Dyno Numbers
-449 rwhp & 414 rwtq SAE (all motor w/87 octane)
-602 rwhp & 626 rwtq SAE (150 shot w/93 octane)
-No numbers with boost and 4L65E yet

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The paint on this car still looks very good. I would give it an 8 out of 10 since it does have a few small chips here and there from normal street driving. It does get a lot of looks though, especially at shows.





















The interior is probably one of this cars best attributes. You just don't see many f-bodies these days with interiors that have been this well kept. The seats were kept oiled regularly and the back seats have hardly ever been sat in. The window motors still work fine and the t-tops seal good with no leaks. I even still have the rare black sun shades on the t-tops in perfect shape. The plastic t-top holders in the back were removed and the amp is mounted in their place. I still have no problems setting the t-tops back there with the shades on them. They don't really move much if you place them in there a certain way. All the custom embroidered logo stuff gets a lot of attention as well.





























The stereo in this car sounds great. The speakers give the perfect clean quality sound without being raspy or tinny sounding. The sub is the most powerful 10" I could get in that box and the amp drives it will. The rear mounted Optima battery keeps the voltage smooth and steady while cruising with the stereo blasting and all the other accessories going at the same time.





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This motor and turbo combo have the potential to put down over 800 rwhp. The motor is all forged and the turbos were rebuilt and upgraded to Stage III specs a few thousand miles ago.





































The trans came out of a 9 second car and still shifts good and hard. The trans cooler helps to keep it from getting too hot. If the 4k stall is too high for your liking, the good thing about Precision is that you can remove the stall and send it back to them and they will re-configure it to whatever specs you choose for only a could hundred bucks.







The suspension on this car is another thing that makes it truly special. I have driven Corvettes that don't handle this well. The car feels like it on rails. The Strano suspension gives it the perfect stance and handling manners, while still allowing it to be smooth and comfortable on city streets.










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Issues
Like I said earlier, the car is having some issues right now. I don't think its anything too major, but if they keep me from getting a fair price on the car, I'll hold on to it longer and try and get them all fixed and sell it for a LOT more.

1) I'm having trouble with oil pressure. The car starts and runs fine, but when the motor gets heated up, the OP drops very low at idle. I think it's an oil pump issue, but I'm not certain.
This issue is being worked on right now. It might have been caused by the lifters not functioning properly because of the loose rocker/bent pushrod issue or it could just be that the oil is getting too hot because of the high engine temps. Either way, it will be fixed soon.

2) When the car gets hot and the OP starts to drop, after a while of running, a ticking sound starts right under the passenger side valve cover. It not a steady ticking sound. It like "tick....tick, tick.....tick....tick, tick, tick". If it were a bent pushrod or a loose valve it would be making that sound from startup and it would be a consistent ticking. I think its probably either a sticking valve or a lifter not coming up properly due to the low oil pressure. I have drained the oil several times in the last few weeks and its been clean as a whistle every time so I don't think its a bottom end issue. Again, the sound appears to be coming from the top side of the motor right under the valve cover and not from down low.
*This issue is being fixed right now. It just had 2 loose rockers that bent 2 of the pushrods.

3) The brake lights aren't coming on for some reason. The 3rd brake light still works and the back lights come on when you turn on the night lights. The turn signals work fine as well. I replaced the floor switch, but it didn't fix it. I checked all the fuses too. It might just have a loose connection somewhere. The windshield wipers aren't working now either so I'm thinking its that turn signal switch assembly going bad. The connection for the brake lights goes through that too and even though the turn signals work right now, it could still be going out.
Shop is fixing this as well.

4) The paint looks great on this car. There are a few chips here and there though. This is a street car that is driven spiritedly, not a show car garage queen. The front bumper could use some touching up mostly though because it got some chips along the edges from taking in on and off a few times when installing the turbo piping and intercooler. Also some paint chips on the center hole where I cut out the front plate cover to allow more air in to help cool the radiator. I was going to put a piece of perforated aluminum in that hole eventually to give it a really clean look up front.

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It's still got the stock 10 bolt???
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Ha, yup, got it in the 10's on a 6 speed so far with no issues. You don't need to launch the car like a madman if you have enough power. Beat my buddy's Daytona 995 on the interstate once spraying in 4th and on. Patrick went 183 mph in the Texas standing mile. Car is very fast!
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If it were me, I would have everything fixed prior to buying or trading. This is a nice car and should be presented that way, which is complete and ready to roll. Also, why not have the car tuned and dyno'd on Meth and c16, this would help alot to know real power, not guesses. I like the car, nice work. is it set to run at the track susp wise and what will the tranny handle as far as RWHP goes. There are 4l80's that handle 1200rwhp with warranties. Thanks
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hey man on phone with G35 owner and is very interested in car PM me your number and i'll shoot it to him to give ya a call
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Transmission is said to be built to handle 900+ rwhp which is perfect for my goals in this car. It's also significantly lighter than the 4L80E and would be cheaper to rebuild or swap in the future.

Also, keep in mind that our local Memphis Mtorsports park closed shortly after the 2009 LSX shooting there. I wanted to build a fast STREET car, not just a track only car. I wanted the car to stop, turn, AND pull hard in the straights and that's exactly what I built it for.

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I'm open to offers for anyone looking to finish this project. I would love to see it completed.
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Gonna put the new plugs in today or tomorrow and see what that does.
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If the car didnt have issues I'd be all over it for a trade with my Cobra....it looks like beast.
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I guess I'm gonna have to iron some these issues out. That will certainly make the price a lot more firm though.
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Originally Posted by bluebird71
I guess I'm gonna have to iron some these issues out. That will certainly make the price a lot more firm though.
If you mean that you iron out the issues and set the price firm at $18k, you'll have NO trouble selling that Beauty!

Heck, if I had room in the garage, I'd think about it!

Bump for a Beautiful car!
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I MIGHT consider trading for a really nice Hugger Orange Camaro since I've always wanted one, but they would have to let me keep my Fikse wheels.
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Keep those offers coming!
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God this is good deal, I want it so bad!! Then I could go rape some Cobra's!
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