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Old 05-17-2012, 07:56 PM
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to come in 10mins prior to your shift AND not pay you for it?
we were just hit with that today, and whoever is late gets a formal warning.
Old 05-17-2012, 07:59 PM
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technically he pays you to work from X:XX not X:YY...

catch my drift
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I would say most companies would like you to be there and ready to work at least a couple minutes ahead of your actual start time.I usually get to work around 5 to 10 mins early just so i know ill be on time.
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we are already there before our shift starts. and we dont get paid by our time cards, we sign each day our work orders with 8hrs. the time cards are just for there safety. snd my boss is a total ***.
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That sounds odd the way they have that set up.In this economy i would deal with it till you can find something better.I wouldnt stir the pot and draw to much attention to yourself in the mean time.I just smile and in my mind im thinkn id love to snap your frackn neck.lol.
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Schedule doesn't say so then no. It's not in writing basically.
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Talk to the HR department. Thats the only place you'll get the right answer. One of their jobs is to ensure the company isnt doing anything illegal or will get them sued.
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I'm sure that OSHA would be very interested in your story, however keep in mind that California still remains an "At Will Employment" state and can terminate you for any given reason.......good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all.
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No. Tell him to **** off and give him a formal warning of a lawsuit
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I think telling him to **** off would be the wrong way to go, talk with hr see what they say, just look for another job man, its not a booming job market out there so wait untill ya have something in line, just show up 15i mins early with the wanted adds in your hand lol
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Republik of Kali is a "fire at will" and they can fire you at any time with or without a reason. I don't think that they can force you to be at work 10 mins early, but they can and will discharge you for not actually working at the correct time. Just as in school, I would rather get there early than stay late. What they will write you up for is not being at your work station and starting work on time.
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is it legal no, but... If he were to fire you, you could try and sue him and things of that matter. but you will still be out a job. If its a big company might be worth it alittle company good luck
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Call channel 7 news.....Im sure a newsvan and a nosey reporter will rile them up a bit.
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It's 10mins get over it , there's days ill work 16+ hours straight , without a lunch or a break. Why ? Because I like to make money and putting in some extra effort will get you more of it.
I started my job as a fresh newb , with in 6 months I was moved into a supervisor position and now 5 years later, I am shop/project/field manger. Only person I answer to is the company owner
A little hard work goes a long way
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Originally Posted by tripblackls1
It's 10mins get over it , there's days ill work 16+ hours straight , without a lunch or a break. Why ? Because I like to make money and putting in some extra effort will get you more of it.
I started my job as a fresh newb , with in 6 months I was moved into a supervisor position and now 5 years later, I am shop/project/field manger. Only person I answer to is the company owner
A little hard work goes a long way
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Technically they cant punish you for being late until you are actually late, and even then most places have a grace period. Ofcourse you you should be there a little early and they can ask you to be but punishing you if you are not there 10 minutes early is not right.

That being said its really not a big deal. I love the comment about the channel 5 news lol. I really hope that was sarcastic. There are FAAAAAAAAR more illegal things going on all over that are reported to Cal OSHA and every other place and still nobody does anything about it.
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That's a huge liability on their part. If someone were to be working, but not on the clock, and got hurt somehow that could definitely be a lawsuit.

That, and just not paying your employees to work is illegal.
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OSHA, or Occupational Safety Health Act is strictly interested in health and safety issues and will not accept other complaints & reports of a legal issue unless they can or will end in industrial accidents / health issues.
I believe for legal issues such as above they would have to be reported to the Republik of Kalif Board of Equalization.
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If he asks you to come in 10 minutes early to be prepared for work, don't worry about it.

If you come in 10 mins early for work and he puts you to work, then document the occurrences where you weren't paid OT. Over a long enough time frame, it may amount to something.

I would not rely on HR to help you out. Their sole purpose is to protect the employer, not you.
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Complaining about this is stupid. Do you expect to be paid for the time spend driving to work? Consider the 10 mins a buffer time to make sure nobody has the excuse that they were stuck in traffic. If it were 30 mins or an hour then its worth complaining about.

Just be happy you have a job...so many people these days dont have one, and would love to have a boss to give them stupid rules like this.
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sounds like we have a union worker......


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